What Previous Hvy Champs Could Whoop Usyk?

[Willow The Wisp]

- - Like I Say that ninnies deny, Usyk been dominating 200lb for 12 yrs, garnishing Olympic Gold and consolidating titles.

Going back at the start of the Millennium, the Ks did the same thing. American heavies are ever becoming more useless.

30 years of Dominance?....Lets have a gander.

Ukraine is a nation of fighters and survivors. Since massive losses to Mongol invaders in the 13th century their resiliency has only grown stronger. During the Soviet years Ukraine fed great fighters into the system and since declaring independence in 91 that natural talent has had the freedom to earn a living at fighting by going pro.

Among the Heavyweights, the impact of Ukrainian professionals has been impressive.
"Dominant" is, upon inspection, an exaggerated pronouncement, but certainly impressive!


1990 - 2025 Heavyweights

1. Lennox Lewis, UK
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Evander Holyfield, US
6. Mike Tyson, US
7. Rid**** Bowe, US
8. Anthony Joshua, UK
9. Deontay Wilder, US
10. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
11. Ike Ibeabuchi, NIG
12. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
13. George Foreman, US
14. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
15. Larry Holmes, US
16. David Tua, AUS
17. Frank Bruno, UK
18. Oliver McCall, US
19. Andrew Golota, POL
20. Hasim Rahman, US
21. Chris Byrd, US
22. Joseph Parker, NZ
23. Shannon Briggs, US
24. Daniel Dubois, UK
25. Luis Ortiz, CUB
26. Tommy Morrison, US
27. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
28. Alexander Povetkin, RUS
29. Dillian Whyte, UK
30. Michael Moorer, US
31. Joe Joyce, UK
32. Agit Kabayel, GER
33. Ray Mercer, US
34. Corrie Sanders, SA
35. Ruslan Chagaev, UZB
36. David Haye, UK
37. Sultan Ibragimov, RUS
38. Lamon Brewster, US
39. Jared Anderson, US
40. Larry Donald, US
41. Jarrell Miller, US
42. Kubrat Pulev, BUL
43. Chris Arreola, US
44. Filip Hrgovic, CRO
45. Roy Jones Jr., US
46. Charles Martin, US
47. John Ruiz, US
48. Derrick Chisora, UK
49. Martin Bakole, CON
50. Alex Stewart, US

[Biledriver]

I hope Apples is still here?Talk about Night Of The Long Knives. If I get the heave ho I'm coming back as Ernst Rohm.

[Biledriver]

Probably all of them from prior to Lennox's retirement.

[QueensburyRules]

30 years of Dominance?....Lets have a gander.

Ukraine is a nation of fighters and survivors. Since massive losses to Mongol invaders in the 13th century their resiliency has only grown stronger. During the Soviet years Ukraine fed great fighters into the system and since declaring independence in 91 that natural talent has had the freedom to earn a living at fighting by going pro.

Among the Heavyweights, the impact of Ukrainian professionals has been impressive.
"Dominant" is, upon inspection, an exaggerated pronouncement, but certainly impressive!


1990 - 2025 Heavyweights

1. Lennox Lewis, UK
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Evander Holyfield, US
6. Mike Tyson, US
7. Rid**** Bowe, US
8. Anthony Joshua, UK
9. Deontay Wilder, US
10. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
11. Ike Ibeabuchi, NIG
12. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
13. George Foreman, US
14. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
15. Larry Holmes, US
16. David Tua, AUS
17. Frank Bruno, UK
18. Oliver McCall, US
19. Andrew Golota, POL
20. Hasim Rahman, US
21. Chris Byrd, US
22. Joseph Parker, NZ
23. Shannon Briggs, US
24. Daniel Dubois, UK
25. Luis Ortiz, CUB
26. Tommy Morrison, US
27. Donovan Razor Ruddock, Canada
28. Alexander Povetkin, RUS
29. Dillian Whyte, UK
30. Michael Moorer, US
31. Joe Joyce, UK
32. Agit Kabayel, GER
33. Ray Mercer, US
34. Corrie Sanders, SA
35. Ruslan Chagaev, UZB
36. David Haye, UK
37. Sultan Ibragimov, RUS
38. Lamon Brewster, US
39. Jared Anderson, US
40. Larry Donald, US
41. Jarrell Miller, US
42. Kubrat Pulev, BUL
43. Chris Arreola, US
44. Filip Hrgovic, CRO
45. Roy Jones Jr., US
46. Charles Martin, US
47. John Ruiz, US
48. Derrick Chisora, UK
49. Martin Bakole, CON
50. Alex Stewart, US

- - LOL Light in the Loafers Lenny.

U awash in Hogwash is an impressive sight to behold with a gas mask.

[Bronson66]

- - No known antidote to the Tubster never having beat a standing champ winning his title in the Ring nor ever holding more than a single belt in a multibelt era he helped to create.

Norton was much better, the whole reason he was in the Ali/Foreman circle while being trained by Frazier.

Poor Lar still smarting from Olympic Medalist Bobick knocking him out of the Olympic trials, forever an inferiority complex...

Which champ did Norton beat for the title? Frazier never trained Norton.

[Willie Pep 229]

Which champ did Norton beat for the title? Frazier never trained Norton.

I think Queen is trying to say that Norton didn't win the title in the ring.

Norton won a WBC eliminator against Young he was slated to fight Neon Leon. But once Spinks signed for the Ali rematch, and blew off the WBC mandatory, the WBC stripped and GAVE the title to Norton.

Holmes then won it by SD from Norton.

[Bronson66]

I think Queen is trying to say that Norton didn't win the title in the ring.

Norton won a WBC eliminator against Young he was slated to fight Neon Leon. But once Spinks signed for the Ali rematch, and blew off the WBC mandatory, the WBC stripped and GAVE the title to Norton.

Holmes then won it by SD from Norton.

I don't find his content rewarding enough to really consider it. I was talking to Marchegiano the other day,he thinks this place is going belly up pretty soon.

[QueensburyRules]

Which champ did Norton beat for the title? Frazier never trained Norton.

- - Joe did and managed him for a spell.

[Willie Pep 229]

Motivated by an argument over in a different thread . . .

I believe 1927 Tunney out points current Uysk.

He would out box him; Dempsey twice shows us he could handle superior power and not wilt; what he loses in weight he gains in foot speed; he is not a fighter you can pin down, to slow down, which Uysk needs to do; Tunney won't let the fight slide into attrition.

I like Tunney's chance against Uysk. 12 round decision.

P.S. Funny, but I can't visualize Tunney beating either Fury or AJ because of size and weight.

[JAB5239]

- - Joe did and managed him for a spell.

Oh, now he managed him and didn't train him? Which is it? Do you have proof for any of this, or is it just another of your hallucinations you expect us to believe?