What Previous Hvy Champs Could Whoop Usyk?

[QueensburyRules]

What does Wlad have to do with it? Wlad was a fighting champion, and Vits wouldn't even rematch Byrd. VK is not his brother. Wasn't Vits offered Valuev in Russia? He opted out with ridiculous contract demands. Either way, Holmes is a top 10 all time great and made a courageous stand for his principles rather than a paycheck. That's called integrity.

- - U Byrd brains ain't qualified to talk about boxing. Tubby Lar who used to be skinny is as principled as your hogwash...

[JAB5239]

- - U Byrd brains ain't qualified to talk about boxing. Tubby Lar who used to be skinny is as principled as your hogwash...

I see you've resumed the top spot as king (queen) troll now that Z has been banned. Congratulations you're finally a winner at something!!

[Willie Pep 229]

I see you've resumed the top spot as king (queen) troll now that Z has been banned. Congratulations you're finally a winner at something!!

They seem to be banning posters who have a history of getting into prolonged, hostile, redundant arguments.

It doesn't seem like it is a "one post" decision, that I can see.

I wonder if they gave these guys an explanation.

I am beginning to believe this is NOT the result of a new AI, but instead a human decision; a new policy.

[JAB5239]

They seem to be banning posters who have a history of getting into prolonged, hostile, redundant arguments.

It doesn't seem like it is a "one post" decision, that I can see.

I wonder if they gave these guys an explanation.

I am beginning to believe this is NOT the result of a new AI, but instead a human decision; a new policy.

That's fine by me. The past week there has been boxing talk, debate and knowledge sharing. Trolling was at a bear minimum which means the flames weren't being fanned that derail threads and turn them to crap. I'm all for playful banter and don't even mind the occasional insult, but let's keep this forum a boxing forum, because the rest of the site is garbage.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Like I say, precious few heavies in the Pantheon can beat Usyk, and precious few have anywhere close to his immaculate 12 year record as a Heavy.

And we're also well into the 3rd #1...read it and weep for thee, thou, and good ol' days when men were Men and not the drooling anthropoids of today.

[Willow The Wisp]

Usyk hasn't been at heavyweight for 12 years.

Depends.

[JAB5239]

Depends.

I respectfully disagree. If you say heavyweights of yesteryear wouldn't be heavyweights today you can't say a man that fought as Cruiserweight for most of his career has been a heavyweightl today. I'd you are going by classes that seems to be a dou le standard I'm my opinion.

[QueensburyRules]

Depends.

- - 3 decades of Ukrainian hvy dominance, and U in Depends is it now?

[Willow The Wisp]

- - 3 decades of Ukrainian hvy dominance, and U in Depends is it now?

You funny QueensburyRules!
Not in depends yet. Check back next year though. It's gonna be a year to year thing at this point. No turning back.

Regarding where to cut the line to determine what a heavyweight is:

175
190
200
225. (WBC)

That depends on what year an observer wishes to stick the year on.

Would you call Dempsey a Cruiserweight?
No, if you settle on 1926 standards.

How's about Usyk? What would you PREFER to call a 190 or 200 pounder of today? By the old time standard or the current standard???

Free country!!!

[QueensburyRules]

You funny QueensburyRules!
Not in depends yet. Check back next year though. It's gonna be a year to year thing at this point. No turning back.

Regarding where to cut the line to determine what a heavyweight is:

175
190
200
225. (WBC)

That depends on what year an observer wishes to stick the year on.

Would you call Dempsey a Cruiserweight?
No, if you settle on 1926 standards.

How's about Usyk? What would you PREFER to call a 190 or 200 pounder of today? By the old time standard or the current standard???

Free country!!!

- - Like I Say that ninnies deny, Usyk been dominating 200lb for 12 yrs, garnishing Olympic Gold and consolidating titles.

Going back at the start of the Millennium, the Ks did the same thing. American heavies are ever becoming more useless.