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short answer, he doesn’t beat any great / Hof from the past. He’s beating some seriously ****ty competition, I don’t think the world even knows to the extent of how bad they are.
to a non boxing fan / casual they rate the ability of a fighter based on his size and also his fame (the level he is fighting at).
Heavyweight boxing started getting bad right around the time Wlad took over, and he only took over because there wasn’t anyone around to fight. He already lost bad in his prime to basic competition.
whats missing is a real fighter, a fighter who isn’t scared and had a good coach to teach him proper boxing fundamentals.
these are all gone. There are no boxing fundamentals because all the good trainers are dead and they never wrote books they only had apprenticeships.
they don’t even know how to train. They all lift weights and don’t even understand what a speed bag is actually used for.
from my estimation, Usyk probably sits around the level of a david Haye. Different style but probably about that level. Someone who would lose perhaps a close decision to Wlad in his prime. Wlad still knew at least how to throw a good right cross and that would probably steal the night.
As soon as Usyk get’s in with a good fighter from the early 00s (or anyone before) he’s gonna run into a world of trouble because the ability and competitive desire of the average boxer in the higher ranks increases. They have better trainers and understand pro boxing much better because of it. They aren’t from the post covid era which seems to have done something to the human race as a whole.
for example, Oliver Mcall, Rahman, James Toney, these guys beat Usyk. At best he’s competitive.
you start getting in with styles like Frazier or Foreman, Ali etc old fight styles and Usyk can’t do anything. His style won’t work and he get’s knocked out. Even temperament alone, you are just dealing with more determined harder men than the guys Usyk is used to getting in with.
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short answer, he doesn’t beat any great / Hof from the past. He’s beating some seriously ****ty competition, I don’t think the world even knows to the extent of how bad they are.
to a non boxing fan / casual they rate the ability of a fighter based on his size and also his fame (the level he is fighting at).
Heavyweight boxing started getting bad right around the time Wlad took over, and he only took over because there wasn’t anyone around to fight. He already lost bad in his prime to basic competition.
whats missing is a real fighter, a fighter who isn’t scared and had a good coach to teach him proper boxing fundamentals.
these are all gone. There are no boxing fundamentals because all the good trainers are dead and they never wrote books they only had apprenticeships.
they don’t even know how to train. They all lift weights and don’t even understand what a speed bag is actually used for.
from my estimation, Usyk probably sits around the level of a david Haye. Different style but probably about that level. Someone who would lose perhaps a close decision to Wlad in his prime. Wlad still knew at least how to throw a good right cross and that would probably steal the night.
As soon as Usyk get’s in with a good fighter from the early 00s (or anyone before) he’s gonna run into a world of trouble because the ability and competitive desire of the average boxer in the higher ranks increases. They have better trainers and understand pro boxing much better because of it. They aren’t from the post covid era which seems to have done something to the human race as a whole.
for example, Oliver Mcall, Rahman, James Toney, these guys beat Usyk. At best he’s competitive.
you start getting in with styles like Frazier or Foreman, Ali etc old fight styles and Usyk can’t do anything. His style won’t work and he get’s knocked out. Even temperament alone, you are just dealing with more determined harder men than the guys Usyk is used to getting in with.
Sorry not Sorry
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