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  • #51
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
    Eddie Machen, Zora Foley, Cleveland Williams and Nino Valdez, who never wore a title belt, were all vastly better fighters than the majority of non-lineal title holders in history. 4 of the best heavyweights who never won the title.
    - Not a single one would be a heavy contender, though Machen and Foley might possibly be cruiser contenders, but top modern weight draining cruisers run around 220 on fight night, so I doubt it.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by The Defecator

      Man, I've got to stay out of the Marciano threads for a while: They're starting to make my head hurt
      He is easily the most divisive figure of the heavyweight champions.
      The Defecator The Defecator likes this.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - Not a single one would be a heavy contender, though Machen and Foley might possibly be cruiser contenders, but top modern weight draining cruisers run around 220 on fight night, so I doubt it.
        Heavyweight standards over time unique, a moving target, sure. A good little man beating a less good bigger man would have to apply. Klitschko brothers a good example of the latter.

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        • #54
          Its all about the fighters heart and determination.

          is resonates in training and manifests itself on fight night.

          its not all about size.

          Marciano is a bad fker but some of you will never understand, sorry to say. He was Ice cold in personality a real gladiator

          Marciano is the most thoroughbred fighter on film

          1. little to no experience turned pro late

          2. short, small with stubby arms - forced to fight at heavyweight.

          3. was written off for the majority of his career, until the very end when he started knocking top ranked contenders ice cold

          4. invented his own style - nobody fought like him.

          5. Was able to generate tremendous leverage and hit extremely hard

          6. Cleaned up 3 great fighters and retired Joe Louis in a very short period of time

          7. retired on top and went on with his life

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