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  • #11
    Maybe this guy right now . . .

    Naoya Inoue​ at Super Bantamweight.

    I can't name another Super Bantanweight.

    He wouldn't work for the Bantamweight division itself.

    It has to be one of the squeezed-in weight classes.

    I like Bat's Chavez suggestion at 140 as well. But then my mind jumps to Aaron Pryor.
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    • #12
      - - Joe Louis hands down. Holds the heavyweight title record that has never been approached until Wlad came along.

      Sal Sanchez, 10-0 title record by age 23 when he passed. Mike Tyson was also 10-0 by age 23, and in a fashion he passed on mentally broken needing dangerous experimental psychotropic sedatives while being managed by an all time sycophant and all around crook in DKing.
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      • #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        While Jones was the greatest talent at 168 I don't think he spent enough time there or has the resume to be put ahead of Ward. P4P yes. But not at 168. Ironically I would rate Jones higher at 175 than Ward for the same reasons. I believe lightheavyweight would be Jones primary weight class.
        Thanks for the info! I didn't know where to put Jones lol.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          No Ezzard Charles at 175?
          There you go... Why this is such a hard question lol.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
            - - Joe Louis hands down. Holds the heavyweight title record that has never been approached until Wlad came along.

            Sal Sanchez, 10-0 title record by age 23 when he passed. Mike Tyson was also 10-0 by age 23, and in a fashion he passed on mentally broken needing dangerous experimental psychotropic sedatives while being managed by an all time sycophant and all around crook in DKing.
            Larry Holmes had consecutive defenses without losing. I personally think Ali and Joe are neck and neck.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Larry Holmes had consecutive defenses without losing. I personally think Ali and Joe are neck and neck.
              Have I lost site of the OP's intent or have some of you guys?

              There seems to be two different sets of answers; two questions being answered.

              Is this a fighter who is so far above the other ATGs of his weight class, that he is the GOAT?

              OR

              Or is this a fighter who was so far beyond the No.#1 contender in his own time?

              If this is the second one, I agree with Queenie, It's Joe Louis in the 1930s.

              But if it against all the greats of that weight class, throughout history, then I stick with Inoue at super bantamweight.

              And that's mainly because of the weight class, Super Bantamweight.
              Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 04-19-2024, 01:33 PM.

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              • #17
                Harry greb.

                then robinson.

                actually who am I saying, Marciano
                Last edited by them_apples; 04-19-2024, 03:40 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                  Thanks for the info! I didn't know where to put Jones lol.
                  Jones is an enigma. He either didn't spend enough time Ina division (160, 168) or didn't have the competition to put him above others at 175. Pound for pound he was an incredible talent though. The ability was there, just not the longevity and or competition. Same with Calzaghe. Excellent fighter, but didn't have many great names on his resume to put him over the tip in my opinion.
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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                    Have I lost site of the OP's intent or have some of you guys?

                    There seems to be two different sets of answers; two questions being answered.

                    Is this a fighter who is so far above the other ATGs of his weight class, that he is the GOAT?

                    OR

                    Or is this a fighter who was so far beyond the No.#1 contender in his own time?

                    If this is the second one, I agree with Queenie, It's Joe Louis in the 1930s.

                    But if it against all the greats of that weight class, throughout history, then I stick with Inoue at super bantamweight.

                    And that's mainly because of the weight class, Super Bantamweight.
                    The way I interpreted it was the fighter with the furthest distance from the next greatest fighter all time in respected division.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                      The way I interpreted it was the fighter with the furthest distance from the next greatest fighter all time in respected division.
                      Yea OK. That's how I tried to answer. I couldn't upstand some of the answers.

                      As great as SRR and Greb were they didn't dominate, which they did, to some extent, but not by a great margin. They had competition. They even lost a bunch.

                      Anyway those answers threw me off task.

                      P.S. Do you think Ezzard Charles dominates Tunney, Greb, Spinks, ETC by the largest margin? I don't.

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