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  • well the lower the weight the more drained he was. Can anyone imagine toney making 160? It's hard to believe he was there in the first place.

    I'm not picking toney to win, but he def had better versions of himself on different nights. Much like Duran did. You are deliberately being biased....
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  • them_apples
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    Bolded doesn't mean jack ****, we saw Mccallum knock out Donald Curry who was 400-4 in the ams. Marciano stopped Moore who had 200+ pro fights. As usual, Marciano is being written off by a casual. Just like he was back in the 50's!

    Access to better training? this doesn't even need a response....
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  • thats cause George is a sociopath he is constantly living in sarcasm so deep nobody can detect it. It’s like he’s playing reverse psychology 24/7. We can all remember him saying he was “terrified” of Joe Frazier - then watching the replay of the calmest heavyweight champion swagger...
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  • Larry might be touching 400.

    he’s right though they don’t have any skills. And while he’s guilty of being tagged huge by shavers, his defense was good if we are going by the ratio of dangerous blows that came his way. He was in some pretty big firefights with a lot of...
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  • them_apples
    replied to Beterbiev vs Marciano
    i couldn’t imagine a world where beterbiev beats a Charles or Moore. With Rocky, due to his appearance, everyone seems to have a chance against him. The amount of times yesterday and today Marciano appears beatable by everyone. Walcott, Moore and Charles all figured him easy work and all ended...
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  • them_apples
    replied to Beterbiev vs Marciano
    And also the structure of boxing was different. Marketing wasn’t in full bloom within the business model. Fighters actually fought with intention of getting title shots. They would hone their skills through fighting. Losses happened because fighters took bigger risks sometimes in order to learn....
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  • So you are telling me all the versions of Toney are the same? Toney showed up in all different kinds of shape throughout his career. Obviously you are a hater, but what can you do....
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  • If Toney wasn’t drained he would have put up a better fight. Didn’t the fight happen at 168? Wasn’t james a cruiser not long after?

    Jones style def wins over Toney, who did well if you tried to fight him.

    if Toney came to win though he’s a better fighter...
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  • James Toney. Toney was experienced, the only downside was his weight struggles which I am sure played a role, but Jones fought smart as well and even fat Toney usually beat just about anyone.

    the Hopkins win was good but Hopkins wasn’t as experienced and the fight was close enough...
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  • them_apples
    replied to Beterbiev vs Marciano
    I love how Rocky just keeps getting lighter and lighter as time goes on. He starts his career at 192, averages around 187 lbs. now you start a post that he’s 180 lbs as if he could easily make light heavyweight.

    first of all, Marciano trains down in weight. Beterbiev probably cuts...
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  • Tiger, He is extremely underrated. So is lamotta, I see tiger landing the better shots though and winning a UD. And his good chin keeps him safe from Lamottas, avg to below avg punching power.

    I would pick prime tiger over a lot of MW's tbh...
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