Young Dempsey hits the bag

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hella good point. That was def the case and makes perfect sense. I think they Broke Holy and Tyson up too because of that. They didnt want the heavyweight champ getting ****ed up by a 175 lbder ...

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Not sure but Moorer taxed that ass if it did happen

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Never seen this one before, only his older past prime footage




[I just smoked a joint when watching this ] I noticed boxers today ruined their training routines because of the media. they know they are being watched while they train now, they no longer are training...

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totally, cobb had an absolutely iron beard. Good call. I'm curious when his chin failed him and what was the scenario. was he out, was he not fighting back, did he turn his back? ref stoppage? or was he sparked. sometimes a fighters others abilities fail them, not their chin - and they lose via sto...

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tbh I don't know much about Carpentier. I know Tunney is often talked about but Carpentier rarely gets mentioned...

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yeah and this is Duran in the 3rd fight, a shell of his former self lol. and they were rivals. Norris probably beats that version of Duran too....

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I'm writing this on the history forum because the fantasy fight section is full of casuals.

Carpentier fought a better prime version of dempsey and made a really good showing, Carpentier was small being a lhw but he had all the attributes of a world champion. In his fight with Dempsey he...

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Ike seemed a bit off his rocker even before boxing, based on his back story. in fact even how he got into boxing is a bit....impulsive. He calimed he watching watching 2 heavyweights fight on TV and said "I figured I could do that" or something along those lines....

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Tunney invented a whole lot of contemporary boxing moves. he turns his head on a 45 degree angle after throwing a right cross, so the counter left hook is hitting a slanted surface which is also covered in Vaseline. kinda like a russian t34 having shells bounce off its slanted armor.

I...

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that just sounds so old school lol. the guy was probably one of those "punchy all the time" type with a lot of jelly floating around in his head. in his prime he probably could take a hell of a punch, but the second he stops boxing he probably was eating through a straw.

its important...

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Def an iron chin

id say Foreman connecting with hook after hook on chuvalos head prob surpasses it though. Chuvalo also took a left hook to his cheek bone from Frazier which caved in part of his face and orbital bone causing his eye and vision to momentarily drop. He still didnt go down,...

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You need to learn how to spar hard without associating it with just expending more energy. This is why technique is important to allow you to move and hit hard without exhausting yourself. Leverage and balance is key as well as breathing....

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dont even entertain it. Theres footage of Lamotta eating flush punches from notorious punchers all iver the internet, theres footage of him breaking his rib and fighting through it. Lamotta and a lot of guys back then were insanely tough....

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well if we rank it based off of who they got hit by and what weight class. Chuvalo comes to mind and mcall.

lamotta and Hagler obviously showed insane durability, but they were always fighting guys similar in weight and size.

if we look at chuvalo or even a guy like scrapiron...

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im curious about this. Some headgears do seem to magnify the damage, but I also have tried a few older head gears, they really do absorb the impact. I got an old replica ray flores headgear, works amazing....

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spar hard but wear sparring gloves. I ****ing hate when idiots have either their personal favorite pair of faulty 16's that are either rock hard or simply much lighter than normal. sparring to get better, sparring hard is good - but this is why you wear good headgear and gloves....

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I actually want to add to this though, since more and more footage of these fighters such as ray is coming out we can get a better picture of how they fought. (mainly more recent sparring footage). Ray was actually masterfully slick at rolling and riding shots. Whenever a fighter barely has a mark on...

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he doesn't say, but as soon as his first layoff he was diving nose first into the sniff....

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I mean, I'd prob pick Lamotta. He came to fight and I don't think Hopkins hits harder than robinson even at 160. little bit taller little more conservative but otherwise probably loses a close decision due to inactivity....