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  • #61
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Shaq a slug. Wilt smokes him in any sport including boxing when he made prime Ali stand down on Howie ABC segment.
    You still buying that story? The only way Wilt smokes Ali is in sexual escapades. Where those big boy pants huh? Huh?
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    • #62
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      You still buying that story? The only way Wilt smokes Ali is in sexual escapades. Where those big boy pants huh? Huh?
      Even that I am curious about. In johnthan eigs book Ali would sometimes be banging 5-6 escorts a night and during camp. He was an animal in that regard
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      • #63
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - - Shaq a slug. Wilt smokes him in any sport including boxing when he made prime Ali stand down on Howie ABC segment.
        Shaq is physically massively strong ..Devon .Larratt said he was the strongest guy he ever arm wrestled and that was way out of his prime..i actually beat him in his prime …food for thought .

        Here’s the thing man …I’m the guy on here that can cause the most damage in the shortest amuof time and that at 49 yrs old …..I run the show on here .lol

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        • #64
          Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

          Shaq is physically massively strong ..Devon .Larratt said he was the strongest guy he ever arm wrestled and that was way out of his prime..i actually beat him in his prime …food for thought .

          Here’s the thing man …I’m the guy on here that can cause the most damage in the shortest amuof time and that at 49 yrs old …..I run the show on here .lol
          And I always thought 'King shlt of turd island" was a 7th grade metaphor." For you it's a reality.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

            Shaq is physically massively strong ..Devon .Larratt said he was the strongest guy he ever arm wrestled and that was way out of his prime..i actually beat him in his prime …food for thought .

            Here’s the thing man …I’m the guy on here that can cause the most damage in the shortest amuof time and that at 49 yrs old …..I run the show on here .lol
            Oh, Christ, the only thing you can run is your mouth. You didn't beat anyone at arm wrestling except maybe your kid sister. Food for thought, from you? Yeah, dumpster food. You are so busy making up stories to brag about you wouldn't have time to beat anyone up. You couldn't anyway. You are a simple tongue waqger and nothing more. You are good for a laugh. I can't think of anyone on here I have laughed at more. So in that sense you are actually doing great and I am a fan.

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            • #66
              Well, since y'all got the other closed I'll just say it here then.

              No HW under 200 is allowed to exist in any major sanctioning body.


              Maybe the WBF of some such similar.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

                Shaq is physically massively strong ..Devon .Larratt said he was the strongest guy he ever arm wrestled and that was way out of his prime..i actually beat him in his prime …food for thought .

                Here’s the thing man …I’m the guy on here that can cause the most damage in the shortest amuof time and that at 49 yrs old …..I run the show on here .lol
                - - Wilt spins slugs like Shaq for fun. Paul Anderson was the strongest man in the world ca 1950s-60s and he couldn't box for squat, but he'd roll up Shaq into a ball and go bowling with him.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                  And I always thought 'King shlt of turd island" was a 7th grade metaphor." For you it's a reality.

                  There are subtle differences in weight classes and divisions for professional boxing and amateur boxing, as well as for MMA, but, in general, the breakdown is similar. Boxing matches are usually scheduled for fixed weight classes and prior to every fight, competitors must weigh in so as to ensure they do not exceed the upper weight limit for their division. However, boxers may compete above their weight class, for example, when Manny Pacquiao went up against Antonio Margarito for a 154-pound title and weighed under the welterweight limit.
                  Canelo Alvarez says he won't make 200lbs vs. Ilunga Makabu, will likely weigh much less than champion

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                  After cleaning up in the super middleweight division in 11 months, the Mexican champion says it's time to move on.
                  At only 31 years old, Saul "Canelo" Alvarez has championships in four divisions. He is also undisputed super middleweight champion and the current face of boxing and that opens the door to seek challenges that will take him to the next level, and that includes moving up a division to go for a fifth crown.

                  "For many people there are limits, but not for me.... I want to thank (Ilunga Makabu) for the opportunity to fight for this title and to continue making history, to put one more star in my career, but I can't (reach 200 pounds), maybe 180, that would be fine," said the Mexican fighter, who in 11 months defeated all the 168-pound champions and who is now analysing his future.

                  Canelo assured that for a long time he fulfilled everything that had been asked of him in order to be considered among the best and that now it is his turn to choose.

                  "2021 was special, to unify this division, something that no one had achieved. To be among the six in the history of boxing (undisputed championship), to be the first Latino. For me it has been the best year. I'm happy and proud to represent all Mexicans and now it's my turn to do what I want. Now the truth is that I faced all the world champions at 168 and I took the title from all of them and now I can do whatever I want," said the Guadalajara native, who will return in May 2022.

                  However, according to Canelo's trainer, Eddy Reynoso, there are still details to be defined for the fight with Makabu, and the weight will undoubtedly be one of the most complicated issues as the Congolese fighter declared that he would not accept an agreed weight.

                  "I am very happy to keep making history, to keep looking for challenges, it is a dangerous challenge but I love that kind of challenge," Alvarez said. "A year ago I said no cruiserweight and here we are, so I don't think so (to reach heavyweight) but with Eddy I don't know sometimes. I don't think so. It's not a possibility, my body is not up to it."



                  There is no rule that prevents a fighter under 200lbs from going up to challenge the heavyweight champion.


                  There is no rule that requires fighters from lower divisions challenging champions in higher divisions without adding a stipulated weight.

                  Anyone saying there is needs to provide proof of it!


                  Last edited by Ivich; 04-15-2024, 12:12 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Claiming an exception without any exceptional ruling to point to while telling others they need to find a rule that goes out of its way to explicitly state how some exception that does not exist should be handled is obviously silly.


                    Manny-Marg was a catchweight fight Exceptions were made.


                    Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito - BoxRec

                    Catchweight - 150

                    Why's that Ivich?

                    Why do catch even exist Ivich?

                    Why are there weight divisions, rules for what happens when fighters don't make weight, rules for how fighters outside of weight classes can agree on different weight barriers, but nothing to point out catch isn't needed for HWs?

                    Probably the same reason you've yet to drum up any sub 200 HWs since 200 became the upper limit of CW.

                    You made up some bull****.


                    Edit- I was just showing a forum function. None of these edits had anything to do with any member or message. I apologize, which I don't do often, if you mistook anything here.
                    Last edited by Marchegiano; 04-16-2024, 07:23 AM. Reason: I won't say, but I will say this, ain't no censor on this bit.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                      Claiming an exception without any exceptional ruling to point to while telling others they need to find a rule that goes out of its way to explicitly state how some exception that does not exist should be handled is obviously silly.


                      Manny-Marg was a catchweight fight Exceptions were made.


                      Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito - BoxRec

                      Catchweight - 150

                      Why's that Ivich?

                      Why do catch even exist Ivich?

                      Why are there weight divisions, rules for what happens when fighters don't make weight, rules for how fighters outside of weight classes can agree on different weight barriers, but nothing to point out catch isn't needed for HWs?

                      Probably the same reason you've yet to drum up any sub 200 HWs since 200 became the upper limit of CW.

                      You made up some bull****.


                      Edit- I was just showing a forum function. None of these edits had anything to do with any member or message. I apologize, which I don't do often, if you mistook anything here.
                      There are weight divisions to prevent mismatches.That is expressly why the Cruiserweight division was created,because the weight discrepancy between
                      Light Heavy and Heavy had grown too large for Light heavies to be able to be competitive with modern Heavyweights

                      This emphatically answers the OP's original question!


                      There are , as far as I know ,no men UNDER 200lbs competing against HEAVYWEIGHTS.

                      Nor have I ever claimed there were!
                      THERE IS NO RULE THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM DOING SO .

                      NOT IN THE WBC RULE BOOK.
                      NOT IN THE WBA ONE .
                      NOT IN THE WBO ONE.
                      My point is proven and its not my concern if some failed to understand it!


                      I have no idea to what else you are referring.

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