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  • #81
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    Sad to see that Ivich was banned.
    Yeah judging by the fury in which Bronson attacks my posts I assumed it was Ivich. Its good though, keeps us all busy. Glad to see him back. They were ****** to let him go

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
      You inserted the word beaten,my original statement said the average weight in title defences
      .

      The average weight of Jack Johnson's title challengers is 202.4lbs

      O Brien 162.5lbs
      Ross 214lbs
      Kaufman 191lbs
      Ketchel 170.25lbs
      Jeffries 227lbs
      Flynn193lbs
      Johnson 222.75lbs
      Moran 203lbs
      Willard 238.5lbs
      Total 1822 lbs Divide by 9
      Equal 202.4lbs
      No arguments, no spin ,no altering my statement ,no BS, that's the average!


      Joe Louis' average is 203lbs,just over half a pound more.

      Total weight of Louis' challengers
      Equal 5085.5lbs
      Divided by 25
      Equals 203 lbs

      * If 190lbs Johnny Davis was included as a bona fide title challenger the total would be 5275.5lbs
      Divided by 26.
      Which would then give us an average of 202lbs just under a half a pound less than Johnsons!

      I certainly would not include it as defence,but I have absolutely no doubt that if our positions were reversed you would! lol



      As a side note for Them Apples. Marciano's weight for title challengers is a perfectly respectable average of 192lbs .
      do you think if they all ate mcdonalds the average might go up?

      a buddy of mine weighs more than George Foreman, he works at a desk job and plays games on his phone when he gets home. He’s the one guy I gotta avoid. He’s about 5 ft 9 I’d say.

      also, how many title challengers did Rock face?
      Last edited by them_apples; 07-27-2024, 08:01 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by them_apples View Post

        do you think if they all ate mcdonalds the average might go up?

        a buddy of mine weighs more than George Foreman, he works at a desk job and plays games on his phone when he gets home. HeâÂÂs the one guy I gotta avoid. HeâÂÂs about 5 ft 9 IâÂÂd say.

        also, how many title challengers did Rock face?
        I am correcting Mendoza/Dr Z, if I don't others may believe his BS.

        I could be pedantic and say Conn's actual weight was168lbs, 6 lbs less than the recorded 174lbs,which would put Louis' average challengers weight lower than Johnson's,but I proved my point and corrected a liar.

        Can't you find some way to make your posts readable?

        It's like trying to interpret morse code and TBH the end result doesn't justify the effort.
        I mistakenly thought you might be interested to learn the average weight of Marciano's challengers,my error.

        Your puerile attempt at sarcasm reached a new low in humour, why don't you swap roles with your fat Buddy?
        I'm sure his content will be more enlightening than your own and perhaps he might actually provide some primary sources for his statements,though I doubt any of them would be as hilarious as some of yours are!

        N.B. Marciano faced 6
        Walcott 196 1/2lbs
        Lastarza 184 3/4lbs
        Charles185 1/2lbs
        Charles 1921/2lbs
        ****ell 205lbs
        Moore 188lbs

        Since you stated
        Holmes v M Spinks 1.199 3/4lbs &2. 205lbs

        Tyson v M Spinks 212 1/4lbs

        Liston v Patterson 1.189lbs &2.194 1/2lbs

        Were fights against Light Heavyweights.

        How would you classify Rocky's fights with Charles1. 185 1/2lbs ,Lastarza2. 184 3/4lbs , and Moore 188lbs ?
        Last edited by Bronson66; 07-28-2024, 02:33 AM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by them_apples View Post

          Yeah judging by the fury in which Bronson attacks my posts I assumed it was Ivich. Its good though, keeps us all busy. Glad to see him back. They were ****** to let him go
          I have no fury in my responses to you,nor do I have any ill will towards you , but I will correct your unsubstantiated assertions when I read them ,and you are of course free to correct mine!

          Meanwhile ,it's a lovely sunny Sunday morning here in the UK.

          I'm going to have some boiled eggs,read the Times, attempt to do it's crossword, potter about on this PC,and get up to date with the Olympics.Then watch last nights Joyce v Chisora fight .By then it will be time for me to get ready to go to my Sunday lunchtime Jazz ,which will be followed by a few games of Euchre accompanied by some liquid refreshment.
          Enjoy your day!
          Last edited by Bronson66; 07-28-2024, 02:43 AM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

            I have no fury in my responses to you,nor do I have any ill will towards you , but I will correct your unsubstantiated assertions when I read them ,and you are of course free to correct mine!

            Meanwhile ,it's a lovely sunny Sunday morning here in the UK.

            I'm going to have some boiled eggs,read the Times, attempt to do it's crossword, potter about on this PC,and get up to date with the Olympics.Then watch last nights Joyce v Chisora fight .By then it will be time for me to get ready to go to my Sunday lunchtime Jazz ,which will be followed by a few games of Euchre accompanied by some liquid refreshment.
            Enjoy your day!
            The only way for me to not have artifacts in my posts is if I sit at my desktop and carefully construct my replies.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by them_apples View Post

              The only way for me to not have artifacts in my posts is if I sit at my desktop and carefully construct my replies.
              Can't you post from home?
              Have you no response to my other question?How would you classify Rocky's fights with Charles1. 185 1/2lbs ,Lastarza2. 184 3/4lbs , and Moore 188lbs ?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
                You inserted the word beaten,my original statement said the average weight in title defences
                .

                The average weight of Jack Johnson's title challengers is 202.4lbs

                O Brien 162.5lbs
                Ross 214lbs
                Kaufman 191lbs
                Ketchel 170.25lbs
                Jeffries 227lbs
                Flynn193lbs
                Johnson 222.75lbs
                Moran 203lbs
                Willard 238.5lbs
                Total 1822 lbs Divide by 9
                Equal 202.4lbs
                No arguments, no spin ,no altering my statement ,no BS, that's the average!


                Joe Louis' average is 203lbs,just over half a pound more.

                Total weight of Louis' challengers
                Equal 5085.5lbs
                Divided by 25
                Equals 203 lbs

                * If 190lbs Johnny Davis was included as a bona fide title challenger the total would be 5275.5lbs
                Divided by 26.
                Which would then give us an average of 202lbs just under a half a pound less than Johnsons!

                I certainly would not include it as defence,but I have absolutely no doubt that if our positions were reversed you would! lol



                As a side note for Them Apples. Marciano's weight for title challengers is a perfectly respectable average of 192lbs .


                Beaten Ivich. Jack Johnson did not beat Jim Johnson or Willard. Take them out of your division. As for his style, on film it involves clinching, and fouling. Jeffries was inactive for 6 years and old.


                Who told you Ketchell was 170 LBS? BS, that's a Box Rec weight. He was closer to 155. One the promotion he wore cowboy boots and a coat to make himself look taller and bigger.​

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                  I have no fury in my responses to you,nor do I have any ill will towards you , but I will correct your unsubstantiated assertions when I read them ,and you are of course free to correct mine!

                  Meanwhile ,it's a lovely sunny Sunday morning here in the UK.

                  I'm going to have some boiled eggs,read the Times, attempt to do it's crossword, potter about on this PC,and get up to date with the Olympics.Then watch last nights Joyce v Chisora fight .By then it will be time for me to get ready to go to my Sunday lunchtime Jazz ,which will be followed by a few games of Euchre accompanied by some liquid refreshment.
                  Enjoy your day!


                  Do not blow your cover, " Bronson. Sure you repeat the same nonsense as Ivich, live in the UK and also enjoy jazz. Don't worry buddy I'm not checking your IP address. Your secret is safe with me.​

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post



                    Beaten Ivich. Jack Johnson did not beat Jim Johnson or Willard. Take them out of your division. As for his style, on film it involves clinching, and fouling. Jeffries was inactive for 6 years and old.


                    Who told you Ketchell was 170 LBS? BS, that's a Box Rec weight. He was closer to 155. One the promotion he wore cowboy boots and a coat to make himself look taller and bigger.​
                    Do you seriously think I give a good **** about you ?


                    BTW .The average weight of Jeffries challengers was 188lbs. 14lbs below Johnson's!

                    PS Ketchel weighed 170lbs when he fought Joe Thompson in1908.
                    Last edited by Bronson66; 07-30-2024, 03:14 PM.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

                      Do you seriously think I give a good **** about you ?


                      BTW .The average weight of Jeffries challengers was 188lbs. 14lbs below Johnson's!

                      PS Ketchel weighed 170lbs when he fought Joe Thompson in1908.
                      I always figured Ketchel a jr MW, who woulda figured we got a heavier superior version of him at 170

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