Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey. Mixed legacies, dubious wins/ draws and lot of ducks?

[Ivich]

[QUOTE=Willow The Wisp;n32094483]

Fine work. I'd chosen against gracing this dung heap of a thread. I suppose that makes me Intolerant.

You were probably right to do so,that was my initial reaction,unfortunately when you see barefaced lies being stated and a well respected author having his name and work disparaged by somebody who has never read a single one of his books,it's hard to refrain from joining in.
I have seen him do this so many times , hopefully the forum will see the agenda behind his posts.
Others he will attack are.Louis,Ali,Frazier ,Lewis and Monzon.
When he is lying ,and deriding the work of a well respected author whose books he has never read I could not stay silent,probably my fault,but I am glad he does not appear to have support for his BS.

[Dr. Z]

[QUOTE=Ivich;n32094506]

You were probably right to do so,that was my initial reaction,unfortunately when you see barefaced lies being stated and a well respected author having his name and work disparaged by somebody who has never read a single one of his books,it's hard to refrain from joining in.
I have seen him do this so many times , hopefully the forum will see the agenda behind his posts.
Others he will attack are.Louis,Ali,Frazier ,Lewis and Monzon.
When he is lying ,and deriding the work of a well respected author whose books he has never read I could not stay silent,probably my fault,but I am glad he does not appear to have support for his BS.

Pollack was banned, like you were many times. I bring forth good information on Louis, Frazier, Ali Lewis and Monzon. Oh sure you will say I made an error on Lewis never fighting a southpaw, or Monzon being KD which was reported by Sports Illustrated.

Press on dear Tony. You are a freemason freak, you donate money to terrorism and, your ill will wish for the USA to get what has been known. Along with your various lies, bet welching and more. All of the above has been well documented.

But if posting about me under a different name which you have done in another forum make you fell better about yourself, do continue to press on.

[Ivich]

[QUOTE=Dr. Z;n32098536]

Pollack was banned, like you were many times. I bring forth good information on Louis, Frazier, Ali Lewis and Monzon. Oh sure you will say I made an error on Lewis never fighting a southpaw, or Monzon being KD which was reported by Sports Illustrated.

Press on dear Tony. You are a freemason freak, you donate money to terrorism and, your ill will wish for the USA to get what has been known. Along with your various lies, bet welching and more. All of the above has been well documented.

But if posting about me under a different name which you have done in another forum make you fell better about yourself, do continue to press on.

A Moderator has told me Pollack would be welcome to post here.I am banned on no boxing forums.
I am a free mason.I do not donate money to any ********* organization.I do donate to a Childrens Ho****e and to a Ho****e local to me.

I have visited the US only once and loved it,I was in NY, Manhattan,44 th st ,and soaked up the atmosphere and reveled in being in Jimmy's Corner Bar,every night, talking with the owner Jimmy Glenn,an ex fighter and trainer into the small hours.
He was a true gentleman ,I posted a photo of him and me on another forum ,taken in the small hours and you tried to imply there was a *******ual connotation to it ,remember?

As usual you are trying to deflect from the fact that you refused to answer my question, it won't work.
You are scum Dr Duck.

[QueensburyRules]

[QUOTE=Willie Pep 229;n32093752]

That's just Dempsey's wit playing off the reported outcome.

Strangler Lewis made three different challenges to Dempsey for a mixed match. Dempsey always replied "maybe" and it then had a week long life of it's own, with Lewis's Gold Dush Trio show getting a boast at the gate.

One of the possible mixed fights got streched out in the press long enough for detailed rules to be published. They're a hoot to read.

Anyway, my point is, Dempsey would never sour the reporter's article with a denial. He would play along. He was a mensch.

- - Seemingly affirming may not be definitive, but more like a gentleman's agreement not to embarrass Johnson who was still able to carry on his braggadocio in a greatly reduced fashion after rehabbing in Leavenworth. Also wouldn't want Tex to know to keep on his good size.

Perfect for Kearns who also would've made a fortune in side bets...

[HOUDINI563]

Here is the article regarding the Johnson vs Dempsey mythical fight. Note right at the very top the statement that this was from a series of mythical fight matchups.

https://www.newspapers.com/image/410...Yi9_nSlTjpKSbI

[Willie Pep 229]

Here is the article regarding the Johnson vs Dempsey mythical fight. Note right at the very top the statement that this was from a series of mythical fight matchups.

https://www.newspapers.com/image/410...Yi9_nSlTjpKSbI

Good post. Maybe it will stop the silly argument from reappearing yet again next year.

Na! Just kidding, it will be back next year anyway.

'Computer Fight' 1920s style. Lol

[Ivich]

Good post. Maybe it will stop the silly argument from reappearing yet again next year.

Na! Just kidding, it will be back next year anyway.

'Computer Fight' 1920s style. Lol

This is the article written by Ray Pearson that I referred to earlier,Dr Duck won't accept it because he is a hater,I believe Queensbury Fool knows it didn't happen but just likes to troll the ****.

[Dr. Z]

This is the article written by Ray Pearson that I referred to earlier,Dr Duck won't accept it because he is a hater,I believe Queensbury Fool knows it didn't happen but just likes to troll the ****.

You won't respond to direct questions or open boxing fan challenge. You duck me, and are an empty chair. And you are a hater.

[Ivich]

You won't respond to direct questions or open boxing fan challenge. You duck me, and are an empty chair. And you are a hater.

You're right! I hate your guts!

[Dr. Z]

You're right! I hate your guts!

I hope your hate lasts a very short time in your remaining life. It is not good for you, Hater.