How Do Americans Feel About Saudi Being The New Capital Of Big Fights

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by nathan sturley

    ha ha i agree the atmosphere lacks as the culture is not to cheer and sing. i don't know what you think but do you find that brits love to chant and sing it lifts the mood so much. in vegas i used to love seeing the celebrities all there and jack nicholson giving his s**t eating grin with his latest beauty and all the pimps in their flamboyant suits all getting ready for the fight. if fury brings over hoards of travellers to saudi christ there will so many morality police arrests man they will be arresting and beheading till the cows come home if those traditional travellers get over the en mass
    True. Whatever you think of the UK talent pool, the fans are great over there & its damn near a party as much as a boxing event. The UK boxing fans are the best fans week to week, month to month imho. Even online they are typically solid on avg where they tend to build up their fighters vs US fans who on avg love to find a reason to tear down a boxer.

    And lmfao yea I hope Fury has a talk to his homies he takes over there as he's going over there a lot over the next 3 fights it sounds like. Some of his guys might be going, but not coming back if not

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    • max baer
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      #22
      Originally posted by Marchegiano
      I don't think much of anything because the long term goal has nothing to do with boxing. They're doing some softwar to westernize. ... ... Pretty much everyone here who isn't American lives in a nation that has already been through it. FDR killed the BE, ya know. Berlin wall is dropped. ... Just what Americanization looks like. In ten-twenty years they'll be less willing to lose money for political gains and will be another fair market of trade. Just like everyone else.



      Oh man, England, the ****'s bombed the **** out of y'all. How about some American businessmen come and rebuild for yas? ... Get me? Everyone does it and after a little while people from Americanized places don't even recognize the Americanization of their people anymore. Keeping with the Brits, they will tell you they stopped BE and BE trade practices because of "economic pressures" ... what was dem pressure and where did they come from? FDR brah. This whole the UK trades like they're Americans bit came after. Similar for France, little dragged out for Germany but not terribly dissimilar, Japan's gone through it, China started to but then the CCP changed their minds so they're stuck in a weird capital-commie society.

      If you look at a society today we recognize as "modern" be it industrial or human rights or whatever metric you like, and you go back in their history to a point where their culture is significantly different, that change coming in some relation to America is damn near guaranteed. Whole empires died, made a big market while they could to save their asses, then leveled off to a normal US trade partner.



      Everyone else is still broke and being left behind in the global trade market. Russia is a shell and China filled that power vacuum .... After Nixon opened trade with China and they Americanized their commie **** just a bit. No one has risen without buying into the US trade network and no one can, not since WWII.



      Edit-

      I forgot to conclude.

      So, point is, since the Kingdom is looking into the future and realizing they have to side with the US and its partners or with Russia, North Korea, China, and Iran and so on they're buying into what they can afford to buy into before they have an economic struggle and siding us US side most likely because they hate Iran. Once comfy, they might continue to like boxing, of golf, or wrestling, but I really think they're just going to become another spot in global sports without much significance over any other spot.



      I mean when AJ was on top London was the mecca ... y'all need decades to claim a new mecca and do it in a couple years ... this ain't Vega, this **** just London.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDqomAHSlQ !!!
      too intellectual for me. i am sure you made a good point though!!

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        #23
        Originally posted by billeau2

        guess those big boy pants have not arrived yet... The Klits presided over such a weak division... and the brilliant strategy employed of holding the opponent... Weak weak weak.,, America has lots of problems, especially Texas, but we have better human rights than the Saudis you stinker you!
        - - Weak because Big Dummy, Lewie, Tyson, and Field avoided them.

        Vit ended Lewie lucrative planned 4 fight retirement finale. Timeline shows the Ks surpass most highly ranked heavies. Most of Ali title reign would be joke fights to today's fight fans as one example.

        Saudis never invaded and carpet bombed other major countries like the US and NATO while preaching civil rights.

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          #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Weak because Big Dummy, Lewie, Tyson, and Field avoided them.

          Vit ended Lewie lucrative planned 4 fight retirement finale. Timeline shows the Ks surpass most highly ranked heavies. Most of Ali title reign would be joke fights to today's fight fans as one example.

          Saudis never invaded and carpet bombed other major countries like the US and NATO while preaching civil rights.
          arrrh ha ha
          as a london ****ney would say "eeeeerh queeny you wanna keep your teeth"
          you love your aggro don't you. ah ha ha

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            #25
            Originally posted by nathan sturley

            ha ha queen b does love to knock his own country.
            i guess ali fought in manila and congo so it is good to carry the belts around the world a bit. it is the world heavyweight title after all.
            i tell you now i bloody love america because it has given us the very best in every walk of life from science, the arts, literature just everything. i'd love it even if were just for the simpsons and family guy alone!
            say no more.
            I love my country and have a lot of problems with it as well... What I have a hard time with is when people flippantly say "well were as bad as China" or some other such place that tramples people... I just find it an insult to those citizens who struggle with totalitarian regimes.

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              #26
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - Weak because Big Dummy, Lewie, Tyson, and Field avoided them.

              Vit ended Lewie lucrative planned 4 fight retirement finale. Timeline shows the Ks surpass most highly ranked heavies. Most of Ali title reign would be joke fights to today's fight fans as one example.

              Saudis never invaded and carpet bombed other major countries like the US and NATO while preaching civil rights.
              Argh No it wasn't . The Klits against the likes of Lyle, Shavers? really? Valuev also? Saudis treat women like ******, those countries murder people who speak out and cut peoples hands off who steal because they are starving. The states has lots of problems and we are getting worse... But we still have people who fight against government intrusion here.

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                #27
                Originally posted by billeau2

                Argh No it wasn't . The Klits against the likes of Lyle, Shavers? really? Valuev also? Saudis treat women like ******, those countries murder people who speak out and cut peoples hands off who steal because they are starving. The states has lots of problems and we are getting worse... But we still have people who fight against government intrusion here.

                douglas murray studies these current issues. he says if the usa is so awful why do so many millions want to live there. because countries like the usa, uk, australia, ireland are better. that's why south american's don't pass loads of men from california at the borders trying to get into el salvodor for a better life.
                i love america and the usa are always sought after when people are in trouble around the world. the usa gives millions of dollars more to charity then any other country in the world. they gifted us the best tv and films and I wont stand for any bad mouthing of that country. queen b thank your lucky stars you are fortunate enough to live there.
                i will say that if saudi's want to pay for the fight then okay, after all ali went aroud the world fighting, iron mike went to japan etc. fair enough but i'd never knock the usa. they have done so much good for the world. i wouldn't be allowed in as i have a conviction for drunk and disorderly ten years ago!!
                i don't even remember 3am leicester town centre picking up a plant pot and throwing it at another reveller who said it was his taxi not mine but they say the camera never lies!!!
                Last edited by max baer; 10-06-2023, 12:30 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by billeau2

                  I love my country and have a lot of problems with it as well... What I have a hard time with is when people flippantly say "well were as bad as China" or some other such place that tramples people... I just find it an insult to those citizens who struggle with totalitarian regimes.
                  Like listening to an American Christian complaing he's being persecuted.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by nathan sturley


                    douglas murray studies these current issues. he says if the usa is so awful why do so many millions want to live there. because countries like the usa, uk, australia, ireland are better. that's why south american's don't pass loads of men from california at the borders trying to get into el salvodor for a better life.
                    i love america and the usa are always sought after when people are in trouble around the world. the usa gives millions of dollars more to charity then any other country in the world. they gifted us the best tv and films and I wont stand for any bad mouthing of that country. queen b thank your lucky stars you are fortunate enough to live there.
                    i will say that if saudi's want to pay for the fight then okay, after all ali went aroud the world fighting, iron mike went to japan etc. fair enough but i'd never knock the usa. they have done so much good for the world. i wouldn't be allowed in as i have a conviction for drunk and disorderly ten years ago!!
                    i don't even remember 3am leicester town centre picking up a plant pot and throwing it at another reveller who said it was his taxi not mine but they say the camera never lies!!!
                    OLk, then you can come but have to stay in Manhattan.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      Argh No it wasn't . The Klits against the likes of Lyle, Shavers? really? Valuev also? Saudis treat women like ******, those countries murder people who speak out and cut peoples hands off who steal because they are starving. The states has lots of problems and we are getting worse... But we still have people who fight against government intrusion here.
                      - - Blithering while U drool again, eh?

                      I know what the Saudis do and furthermore know what American do to Nations they have bombed starting just before the 3rd millennium.

                      I also know what Americans do to each other as well as their own children.

                      By default, the above/\ is what U do is that is you are saying. America lost the moral arguement decades ago.

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