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  • #31
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    Not Monzon - Hagler he said.

    Interesting excerpt though.
    Ignore him ,he is illiterate.
    Last edited by Ivich; 10-05-2023, 08:16 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ivich View Post
      I've given the OP until Friday evening to produce details of this fictitious fight between Monzon and Jorge Fernandez that he says happened in January 1966 a mythical fight in which he says Fernandez knocked Monzon down and may have ko'd him if he hadn't been so short and over the hill at 30!! lol
      I wouldn't hold my breath. Z is one of those who has degenerated into full buffoon mode, sadly.
      Ivich Ivich likes this.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

        Not Monzon - Hagler he said.

        Interesting excerpt though.
        It is inserting how Ivich has an affinity to defend wife beaters and murders. What up with that? The book is on Monzon.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ivich View Post
          I've given the OP until Friday evening to produce details of this fictitious fight between Monzon and Jorge Fernandez that he says happened in January 1966 a mythical fight in which he says Fernandez knocked Monzon down and may have ko'd him if he hadn't been so short and over the hill at 30!! lol
          And I told you clown this information is not on Box Rec or Wiki. You are a dolt and somehow I doubt you can read Argentina newspapers in Spanish.

          Research it for yourself. You find it there. As I told you many times.

          ¡Este viejo loco es para golpeadores de esposas!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

            And I told you clown this information is not on Box Rec or Wiki. You are a dolt and somehow I doubt you can read Argentina newspapers in Spanish.

            Research it for yourself. You find it there. As I told you many times.

            ¡Este viejo loco es para golpeadores de esposas!

            Another DUCK by you!
            If you have the information POST IT!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

              ​It is inserting how Ivich has an affinity to defend wife beaters and murders. What up with that? The book is on Monzon.
              It is inserting? What up with that?
              What's this ESPERANTO?
              Last edited by Ivich; 10-05-2023, 08:15 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                I wouldn't hold my breath. Z is one of those who has degenerated into full buffoon mode, sadly.
                I've known this muppet for over a dozen years, he is a serial liar and an illiterate hater of the following

                Johnson
                Dempsey
                Louis
                Frazier
                Lewis

                His heroes are Jim Jeffries.Wladimir Klitschko.and Vitali Klitschko,and his latest heart throb is Filip Hrgovic.

                See a pattern there?
                This is a man who once bet me that the Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed and he cited Ted Spoon as one who confirmed it was.I contacted Ted and he said he had never spoken to him.
                This is a man who incorrectly quoted Kevin Smith stating that Smith had said Burns had jaundice when he fought Johnson.
                Kevin popped up on Classic ESB and asked him not to attribute quotes to him he had never said.
                Fight film collector Steve Compton stated the Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was not filmed.so did boxing authors Adam Pollack,and Gilbert Odd.
                The camera failed to work,consequently a fake film of the fight was made using the real fighters going through the motions wearing stage make up,a re-enactment.

                Z said that counts as the fight being filmed and he reneged on the bet.
                That is the character of this man
                .
                Now he is in full hate mode he can be seen by the forum for the MORON he is.
                Last edited by Ivich; 10-05-2023, 08:15 AM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post
                  Monzon hung them up at age 34. Hagler was the heir apparent. IMO, Hagler beat Briscoe more impressively than Monzon did.


                  So why didn't Monzon fight Hagler next? Was anyone in the press asking for a potential match up between them? Lots of question here.
                  Just been reading a Ring magazine dated July 1977 Monzon was Fighter Of the Month, having just beaten his then number 1 challenger Valdez for the second time.
                  The middleweight ratings were as follows.
                  1. Colbert
                  2.Valdez
                  3. Briscoe
                  4.Love.
                  5 Harris.
                  6. Minter.
                  7.Hagler.
                  8.Antucermo
                  9.Watts
                  10.Gacic
                  Previously Hagler had been ranked number 9 but after beating Willie Monroe he was moved up two places to no 7,and Monroe was dropped from the top ten.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                    It is inserting? What up with that?
                    What's this ESPERANTO?
                    You bore me. I know it happed, you don't and since you do not research because YKSAB, it will stay that way. Not everything is on the web where you can read it and it's not my job to educate you.

                    You are a lair, a bet welsher, and evidently fan fan of wife beating boxers who ended up in prison. Why??? I know it as so do you. What you write mean Jack to me. I like Holmes and Ali, and have been a fan of theirs for 20+ years by the way.

                    I waste my time replying to you so I will end it here.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                      You bore me. I know it happed, you don't and since you do not research because YKSAB, it will stay that way. Not everything is on the web where you can read it and it's not my job to educate you.

                      You are a lair, a bet welsher, and evidently fan fan of wife beating boxers who ended up in prison. Why??? I know it as so do you. What you write mean Jack to me. I like Holmes and Ali, and have been a fan of theirs for 20+ years by the way.

                      I waste my time replying to you so I will end it here.
                      it happed? a lair? evidently a fan fan?I know it as so do you?

                      What you write men Jack to me?

                      You illiterate buffoon!
                      The fight is not in Monzon's record on Box rec.neither is it in Fernandez' record on Box rec,nor is it on CBZ, or in the Ring Record Book.

                      PROVE IT HAPPENED .POST A REPORT OF IT .IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE SOUTH AMERICAN MIDDLEWEIGHT.IT SHOULDNT BE HARD TO FIND!

                      Sure you will end it there, when you are caught out in your lies that's exactly what you do ,bail out!
                      Last edited by Ivich; 10-05-2023, 12:33 PM.

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