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Did Monzon retire to avoid Hagler?
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Originally posted by Ivich View PostI've given the OP until Friday evening to produce details of this fictitious fight between Monzon and Jorge Fernandez that he says happened in January 1966 a mythical fight in which he says Fernandez knocked Monzon down and may have ko'd him if he hadn't been so short and over the hill at 30!! lolIvich likes this.
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Originally posted by Ivich View PostI've given the OP until Friday evening to produce details of this fictitious fight between Monzon and Jorge Fernandez that he says happened in January 1966 a mythical fight in which he says Fernandez knocked Monzon down and may have ko'd him if he hadn't been so short and over the hill at 30!! lol
Research it for yourself. You find it there. As I told you many times.
¡Este viejo loco es para golpeadores de esposas!
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Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post
And I told you clown this information is not on Box Rec or Wiki. You are a dolt and somehow I doubt you can read Argentina newspapers in Spanish.
Research it for yourself. You find it there. As I told you many times.
¡Este viejo loco es para golpeadores de esposas!
If you have the information POST IT!
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
I wouldn't hold my breath. Z is one of those who has degenerated into full buffoon mode, sadly.
Johnson
Dempsey
Louis
Frazier
Lewis
His heroes are Jim Jeffries.Wladimir Klitschko.and Vitali Klitschko,and his latest heart throb is Filip Hrgovic.
See a pattern there?
This is a man who once bet me that the Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed and he cited Ted Spoon as one who confirmed it was.I contacted Ted and he said he had never spoken to him.
This is a man who incorrectly quoted Kevin Smith stating that Smith had said Burns had jaundice when he fought Johnson.
Kevin popped up on Classic ESB and asked him not to attribute quotes to him he had never said.
Fight film collector Steve Compton stated the Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was not filmed.so did boxing authors Adam Pollack,and Gilbert Odd.
The camera failed to work,consequently a fake film of the fight was made using the real fighters going through the motions wearing stage make up,a re-enactment.
Z said that counts as the fight being filmed and he reneged on the bet.
That is the character of this man
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Now he is in full hate mode he can be seen by the forum for the MORON he is.Last edited by Ivich; 10-05-2023, 08:15 AM.
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Originally posted by Dr. Z View PostMonzon hung them up at age 34. Hagler was the heir apparent. IMO, Hagler beat Briscoe more impressively than Monzon did.
So why didn't Monzon fight Hagler next? Was anyone in the press asking for a potential match up between them? Lots of question here.
The middleweight ratings were as follows.
1. Colbert
2.Valdez
3. Briscoe
4.Love.
5 Harris.
6. Minter.
7.Hagler.
8.Antucermo
9.Watts
10.Gacic
Previously Hagler had been ranked number 9 but after beating Willie Monroe he was moved up two places to no 7,and Monroe was dropped from the top ten.
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Originally posted by Ivich View PostIt is inserting? What up with that?
What's this ESPERANTO?
You are a lair, a bet welsher, and evidently fan fan of wife beating boxers who ended up in prison. Why??? I know it as so do you. What you write mean Jack to me. I like Holmes and Ali, and have been a fan of theirs for 20+ years by the way.
I waste my time replying to you so I will end it here.
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Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post
You bore me. I know it happed, you don't and since you do not research because YKSAB, it will stay that way. Not everything is on the web where you can read it and it's not my job to educate you.
You are a lair, a bet welsher, and evidently fan fan of wife beating boxers who ended up in prison. Why??? I know it as so do you. What you write mean Jack to me. I like Holmes and Ali, and have been a fan of theirs for 20+ years by the way.
I waste my time replying to you so I will end it here.
What you write men Jack to me?
You illiterate buffoon!
The fight is not in Monzon's record on Box rec.neither is it in Fernandez' record on Box rec,nor is it on CBZ, or in the Ring Record Book.
PROVE IT HAPPENED .POST A REPORT OF IT .IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE SOUTH AMERICAN MIDDLEWEIGHT.IT SHOULDNT BE HARD TO FIND!
Sure you will end it there, when you are caught out in your lies that's exactly what you do ,bail out!Last edited by Ivich; 10-05-2023, 12:33 PM.
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