Robinson vs McClellan

[Ivich]

I told you my reasons. What percentage of Robinson's opposition would Mcclellan destroy?

Well considering Robinson had over 200 fights in a 25 year career, probably half?

[Slugfester]

Well considering Robinson had over 200 fights in a 25 year career, probably half?

I refuse to believe you are not kidding. I feel at least 80%, very conservatively. Probably 40-45% of Robby's opponents were welterweights, since you mention the number 200+. Mcclellan crushes all of them except probably Lamotta and possibly Gavilan, if you expect him to fight welterweights too. Many would succumb to the initial attack. To me it makes more sense to compare him with Robby's middleweight opposition.

Not to worry about the likes of Archer and Pender or Basilio or Jones. Giardello has a fair chance. Don't count Fullmer out. Maxim (LH) will not be stopped, but that does not mean that he will win, but might, since he could take the big punches of bigger men. Olson stands little chance

Robinson's Best Opponents, no order:

1 Archer
2 Pender
3 Giardello
4 Dupas
5 Fullmer
6 Maxim
7 Basilio
8 Olson
9 Jones
10 Castellani
11 Graziano
12 Turpin
13 LaMotta
14 Basora
15 Fusari
16 Villemain
17 Abrams
18 Bell
19 Levine
20 Jannazo
21 Angot
22 Costner
23 Bell
24 Armstrong
25 Servo
26 Zivic

If you assume everyone I have listed beats Mcclellan, I just have to ask, where are the other 76 coming from?

[Ivich]

I refuse to believe you are not kidding. I feel at least 80%, very conservatively. Probably 40-45% of Robby's opponents were welterweights, since you mention the number 200+. Mcclellan crushes all of them except probably Lamotta and possibly Gavilan, if you expect him to fight welterweights too. Many would succumb to the initial attack. To me it makes more sense to compare him with Robby's middleweight opposition.

Not to worry about the likes of Archer and Pender or Basilio or Jones. Giardello has a fair chance. Don't count Fullmer out. Maxim (LH) will not be stopped, but that does not mean that he will win, but might, since he could take the big punches of bigger men. Olson stands little chance

Robinson's Best Opponents, no order:

1 Archer
2 Pender
3 Giardello
4 Dupas
5 Fullmer
6 Maxim
7 Basilio
8 Olson
9 Jones
10 Castellani
11 Graziano
12 Turpin
13 LaMotta
14 Basora
15 Fusari
16 Villemain
17 Abrams
18 Bell
19 Levine
20 Jannazo
21 Angot
22 Costner
23 Bell
24 Armstrong
25 Servo
26 Zivic

If you assume everyone I have listed beats Mcclellan, I just have to ask, where are the other 76 coming from?

Tell me not in mournful numbers.
Life is but an empty dream!
For the soul is dead who slumbers.
And things are not what they seem.

[QueensburyRules]

Well considering Robinson had over 200 fights in a 25 year career, probably half?

- - U dog killer couldn't even amass 50 wins...duh

That's OK. We already figured you don't do math and logic as befits a persnickety quaffer of Ungutted FrenchFried Snails.

[them_apples]

Okay. Then twenty lbs doesn't mean anything either.

It won’t matter because him and Robby are still close enough in size. There are a lot of things that make up 10 lbs. like height for example. Fat, fake gym muscles or natural things like bone structure, tendons and natural muscle mass (muscles with larger attachments).

it’s not as simple as just weight.

Duran was 132 lbs in one of his early fights, 250+ watching a baseball game in 2003.

[them_apples]

I refuse to believe you are not kidding. I feel at least 80%, very conservatively. Probably 40-45% of Robby's opponents were welterweights, since you mention the number 200+. Mcclellan crushes all of them except probably Lamotta and possibly Gavilan, if you expect him to fight welterweights too. Many would succumb to the initial attack. To me it makes more sense to compare him with Robby's middleweight opposition.

Not to worry about the likes of Archer and Pender or Basilio or Jones. Giardello has a fair chance. Don't count Fullmer out. Maxim (LH) will not be stopped, but that does not mean that he will win, but might, since he could take the big punches of bigger men. Olson stands little chance

Robinson's Best Opponents, no order:

1 Archer
2 Pender
3 Giardello
4 Dupas
5 Fullmer
6 Maxim
7 Basilio
8 Olson
9 Jones
10 Castellani
11 Graziano
12 Turpin
13 LaMotta
14 Basora
15 Fusari
16 Villemain
17 Abrams
18 Bell
19 Levine
20 Jannazo
21 Angot
22 Costner
23 Bell
24 Armstrong
25 Servo
26 Zivic

If you assume everyone I have listed beats Mcclellan, I just have to ask, where are the other 76 coming from?

Fullmer, Lamotta, Giardello, Maxim and Archer all have good chances to beat McClellan. Even Turpin has a good shot. These are all real good middleweights. McClellan wasn’t sleeping legends.

out of that list I am almost positive Maxim beats Mclellan. Having not just a good chin but also great defense. Basically 2 factors working against mclellans best asset (power). Take that away he’s not really that special.

[Slugfester]

Fullmer, Lamotta, Giardello, Maxim and Archer all have good chances to beat McClellan. Even Turpin has a good shot. These are all real good middleweights. McClellan wasnâÂÂt sleeping legends.

out of that list I am almost positive Maxim beats Mclellan. Having not just a good chin but also great defense. Basically 2 factors working against mclellans best asset (power). Take that away heâs not really that special.

Uh, do you read?

So what? Not relevant to my list. I already said for argument's sake to assume everyone on the list of Robinson's best opponents could beat MCclellan. Maxim is on that list, so were Giardello, Turpin and Fullmer. Do you read? I still want to know where the other 70+ guys on Robinson's list that are going to mop the ring with MCclellan are going to be found (Ivich's speculation that half Robinson's opponents would beat MCclellan). No one said (especially me) that MCclellan would beat Maxim. So what's your kick, honey?

You had better read what I said again. Go to the post, put your index finger down and follow the print this time.

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