Lennox Lewis vs the past and present Southpaws and Slick orthodox fighters.

[Dr. Z]

What? Yeah he ducked the almighty Johnny Ruiz... the quiet man... Stoney, his trainer and the loud man actually threw more punches during a bout than Ruiz. And who did Lewis Fight when forsaking the virtual Mongol Hordes that was Ruiz? He fought a guy who most considered a dangerous opponent, Michael Grant. Lewis exposed Grant because at the time of the fight the fans, and virtually all the pundits thought Ruiz was nothing special and that Grant could hurt and even beat Lewis.

Corrie Sanders was a friend of lewis and never had a legit claim to fight him, Didn't Hassim Rahman beat Sanders for the Lewis fight? I don't know if this is correct.

Generally speaking lewis did not duck anyone. He fought who the fans thought he should, which is why he didn't want Ruiz who never had a chance against him.

Well he ducked the Vitali re-match, a fight he said he would give at least twice. I think I know why.

[IronDanHamza]

Well, was he a neutral lefty? Do you know? He was certainly mobile and defensive. The type Lewis avoided. Maybe Lewis fought 0 southpaws than by design.

Here is a good post, not mine on converted Southpaws.




That is gold.

He’s not a southpaw though, is he?

[Hooded Terror]

He only fought 1 south paw, a small cruiser weight sized guy named Ossie Ocasio who had a career record or 23-12-1. He took him the distance wining 80-77. It was a reasonably close fight, and that is it. He said he would not fight anymore south paws. He did not fight and tricky skilled orthodox fighters either like say James Toney, or Jonh Ruiz whom he dropped a belt rather than face.

No fights vs. Chris Byrd either or Corrie Sanders either. At they very least there is some smoke here. Perhaps a fire.

Thoughts?

There was a rumor back in the day that Lenny had a piece of Sanders contract. No doubt Byrd would have presented a complicated and possibly very ugly assignment. Lewis did manage to get a million for letting go of his IBF strap as opposed to facing Byrd, if memory serves.

In fairness, Lenny beat the stuffing out of Lurch, so I do forgive the Byrd-thing.

[Dr. Z]

He’s not a southpaw though, is he?

I don't know if he is left handed fighter who fought orthodox , do you? My point stands the he was a quick, tricky mobile type of fighter . Lewis did not fight those types. Lewis took Ocasio the distance in older years while other men such a Dokes and Gardner knocked him out in 1981. He tuned pro in 1976. Lewis fought him in 1990 by that time he was fat.

See the title of the thread. If you are stuck on southpaw, I mis-spoke. Lewis did not fight any! I think... I am no expert on Cassio, are you?

[IronDanHamza]

I don't know if he is left handed fighter who fought orthodox , do you? My point stands the he was a quick, tricky mobile type of fighter . Lewis did not fight those types. Lewis took Ocasio the distance in older years while other men such a Dokes and Gardner knocked him out in 1981. He tuned pro in 1976. Lewis fought him in 1990 by that time he was fat.

See the title of the thread. If you are stuck on southpaw, I mis-spoke. Lewis did not fight any! I think... I am no expert on Cassio, are you?

You said after the fight Lennox said he doesn’t want to fight any more southpaws.

But he’s not a southpaw, as far as I can tell. He doesn’t fight in a southpaw stance. So obviously Lennox didn’t say that following that fight.

[Ivich]

You said after the fight Lennox said he doesn’t want to fight any more southpaws.

But he’s not a southpaw, as far as I can tell. He doesn’t fight in a southpaw stance. So obviously Lennox didn’t say that following that fight.

Dr Z caught out in yet another lie! Ground Hog Day!

[Dr. Z]

You said after the fight Lennox said he doesn’t want to fight any more southpaws.

But he’s not a southpaw, as far as I can tell. He doesn’t fight in a southpaw stance. So obviously Lennox didn’t say that following that fight.

Any more? Did he fight any? You tell me!

Byrd, attending the International Hall of Fame ceremonies in Canastota, N.Y., (where, ironically, Johnson's trainer, Curtis Cokes, will be inducted this weekend), said, "I haven't seriously trained in six months, but I'm never really out of shape. I'd be ready by next Saturday."

But Lewis has made it clear that he doesn't want to fight the clever southpaw, who might still fit in the mix if, as expected, Don King makes a move.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...3#post31924385.

There you have it, he ducked Byrd.

And no fights with Southpaws Sanders, or Moorer. He not fight Hipp either.

[Hooded Terror]

Any more? Did he fight any? You tell me!



https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...3#post31924385.

There you have it, he ducked Byrd.

And no fights with Southpaws Sanders, or Moorer. He not fight Hipp either.

That's NOT a duck! Getting beaten by Byrd then never looking to exact revenge, THAT is a duck! Sorry Lurch.

[billeau2]

Dr Z's hatred of Lewis stems from Lennox's stoppage of his vanilla hero Vitali.
Z claims Lewis used illegal tactics to cause the 64 stitches needed to close the Ukrainian's cuts.

A lot of people hate Lewis for that fight lol. The nerve of the guy to not want to get bashed in the head anymore and retire after that fight with Vitalie! He owed Vitalie! And it is Lewis' fault they called the fight. He could be seen talking to the doctor and others advising them as to Vitalie's condition.

To be serious a moment: Vitalie had his chance. He knew that his face was degraded... Greatness would have been Vitalie chancing being Koed to beat Lewis before the stoppage. Vitalie could not do it. His talent was immense and he fought very well, but there are levels to the game... Men like Ali who fought with broken jaws, etc. Many fans of Vitalie act like Lewis denied Vitalie and it is infantile. There is also a very confused narrative about the fight: Lewis was coming on and causing more damage which is why they stopped the fight.

[billeau2]

Any more? Did he fight any? You tell me!



https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...3#post31924385.

There you have it, he ducked Byrd.

And no fights with Southpaws Sanders, or Moorer. He not fight Hipp either.

You are trying to find a correlation and not letting fact stand in the way. Many people avoided Byrd, it was not a Duck, Byrd had nothing to offer that made the fight a natural given. Then you try to characterize Lewis, wind up wrong that one of the fighters you claim is a Southpaw is in fact a southpaw... and then try to piss on the collective leg of the forum and tell us its raining by claiming Joe Hipp was ducked... Hip was about the level of virtually all Lewis tune ups, he was not a threat. Ruiz was even better than Hipp!

There was no real reason for Lewis to fight the likes of these opponents you tout!