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  • #11
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
    Forgot about this one. Not only was the draw a controversy this decision to overturn it decades later was too.

    Australian boxing icon Jeff Fenech has been awarded the World Boxing Council’s super-featherweight belt 31 years after being denied the title in a controversial draw against Azumah Nelson.

    A panel of WBC judges reassessed the June 28, 1991, fight at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas, which lasted 12 rounds and resulted in Nelson keeping his belt.

    That decision was widely criticized by boxing pundits and Fenech later said he was never the same fighter after it.

    “This time it was a UD (unanimous decision) for ‘The Marrackville Mauler.’ That makes a grand total of four WBC belts for him,” the WBC said in a statement on the reassessment.

    One of his country’s greatest boxers, Fenech held the IBF bantamweight title from 1985 to 1987, the WBC super-bantamweight title from 1987 to 1988 and the WBC featherweight title from 1988 to 1990.

    “It would’ve meant more to me back when I really won the fight. But for them, the WBC, to do this is so special,” Fenech, 58, told News Corp. “Far out, it means so much to me.”

    Prior to Nelson, Fenech had won 25 straight fights.

    He and Ghanaian Nelson had a rematch in Melbourne a year later, with the Australian knocked out in the eighth round in front of a huge crowd at Princes Park.

    The pair reunited for another bout in Melbourne in 2008 when they were both middle aged, which Fenech won by majority decision.
    WBC overturning a decision retrospectively is appalling. And it’s not as if this decision was outrageously bad.

    I actually made a thread about this fiasco.

    https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...een-overturned


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    • #12
      Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
      Fury vs Wilder, first fight.

      Knockdowns aside, Fury dominated Deontay.
      Nah, I think there's a little bit of revisionist history here.

      Fury was KD'd 2x for a reason

      All Wilder needed for a draw was for it to be a 8-4 fighter with the 2 KDs.

      It's not that much of a stretch to say he won 4 rounds in the fight.
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      • #13
        The correct answer is Whitaker/Chavez

        Whitaker outlanded Julio Cesar Chavez 311-220 in total punches in their controversial draw on 9/10/93. Whitaker landed 46% of his power punches vs. Chavez.

        Whitaker landed 50 punches in round 8 vs. Chavez, the 2nd most by a JCC opponent. #1 is the 53 that fellow Olympian Meldrick Taylor landed vs. Chavez in round 10 of their epic fight.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

          Nah, I think there's a little bit of revisionist history here.

          Fury was KD'd 2x for a reason

          All Wilder needed for a draw was for it to be a 8-4 fighter with the 2 KDs.

          It's not that much of a stretch to say he won 4 rounds in the fight.
          Well, I'll give you that, in part. Perhaps "dominated" is not the correct verb.

          Still, the draw was a gift to Deontay. Not the loudest robbery cry in history, but I think it's undebatable that the right man didn't get the decision that night.

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          • #15
            Whitaker-Chavez for me.

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            • #16
              Out of those options it’s definitely Lewis-Holyfield.

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              • #17
                We'll must've forgot: the Tyson vs RJJ exhibition.

                Now, THAT was a robbery by draw
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                  Na! Whitaker gets credit for stopping the KO freight train called Chavez. That he did, the first to do it. That was a great effort.

                  But then he never risked mounting an offense.

                  Whitaker was content with thinking if he wins the 'anticipation game' (that Chavez couldn't KO him.) that he would be declared the winner.

                  Not enough! He got all he deserved, a draw.

                  If he wanted a win he needed to take it Chavez not just, not get KOed. But he wouldn't risk it.

                  Fight ended the way it began, with Chavez moving forward and Whitaker neutralizing him.

                  If that's all there is, that's a draw.
                  - - Pea Shooter couldn't pop a soap bubble.

                  Went into an all time great's home environs where he still hadn't learnt the lessons of his disaster in Monte Carlo vs southpaw JL Ramirez whom he spent a lot of energy clowning while walking into his left hook to the liver to be hanging on for dear life by the end.

                  He could be excused for being green with Duva being stooopid, but Duva was smart enough to keep him away from young Chavez who ruined Meldrick Taylor until Chavez was showing his age closing in on 90 fights.

                  Rule #1: Don't clown a Great in his home environs...Duh...

                  Rule #2: Keep focus and busy and remember, you're a professional, so act it.

                  That's why I consider Pea a top fighter of his era, but not a great. Fantastic talent, his best fight was Roger Mayweather where they had a grudge, so Pea showed up to fight and whooped him in a great fight.​​​​​​
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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Pea Shooter couldn't pop a soap bubble.

                    Went into an all time great's home environs where he still hadn't learnt the lessons of his disaster in Monte Carlo vs southpaw JL Ramirez whom he spent a lot of energy clowning while walking into his left hook to the liver to be hanging on for dear life by the end.

                    He could be excused for being green with Duva being stooopid, but Duva was smart enough to keep him away from young Chavez who ruined Meldrick Taylor until Chavez was showing his age closing in on 90 fights.

                    Rule #1: Don't clown a Great in his home environs...Duh...

                    Rule #2: Keep focus and busy and remember, you're a professional, so act it.

                    That's why I consider Pea a top fighter of his era, but not a great. Fantastic talent, his best fight was Roger Mayweather where they had a grudge, so Pea showed up to fight and whooped him in a great fight.​​​​​​
                    What a load of rubbish. Chavez had 100 combined amatuer and professional fights with no wear and tear, and was the number one p4p fighter. Whitaker had 247 amateur and professional fights and was the number two p4p fighter. Whitaker put on a boxing clinic and schooled Chavez. If the opposite happened and Peas was with King you would be screaming "the fix was in".
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                      A few come to mind…Lewis/Holyfield, Hearns/Leonard II, Pacquiao/Marquez I.

                      Who do you have?
                      Sweet pea vs Chavez Sr is the only answer.

                      Hearns vs Leonard and pac vs Marquez were competitive. Whitaker vs chavez wasnt
                      Last edited by Hustle; 07-05-2023, 12:54 PM.
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