Hemingway Evaluates Joe Louis in1935

[billeau2]

What did I write that is not true? He's not an angel? LOL, the man beat his wife to an inch of her life,

I guarantee whatever you KNOW about Johnson is not particular to what was known about other fighters... like Jack Dempsey who was accused of hitting his wife. Your singling Johnson out when you, nor anyone else, really understand the incidents involving Johnson anymore than we do involving other fighters. Sometimes there is information from a source that tells us something. Like when Monzon went off the rails, or with Gatti and his wife. Most of the information we get is not reliable and allows one to simply pick and choose things they want to use to bolster, or disparage a fighter.

BTW, Jack London, who hated Johnson, would have jumped at the chance to label him a wife beater, just curious, did he do so? He called Johnson everything else... thats for sure.

[billeau2]

****ens I love a lot, though he can be quite maudlin. Or maybe that is why I like him. I got into Tolkein and was never ashamed of it. A lot of literary snoots pinch their noses at JR. Not speaking of you. You gave it a good try and just didn't like it.

You would probably enjoy The Stranger by Camus. So tense, and in the Hemingway style.

I was never a fan of Tolkein either, but he was a scholar and his tales were packed with historical fiction that was a great way to look at the parallel real history of England/Europe.

[Willie Pep 229]

I guarantee whatever you KNOW about Johnson is not particular to what was known about other fighters... like Jack Dempsey who was accused of hitting his wife. Your singling Johnson out when you, nor anyone else, really understand the incidents involving Johnson anymore than we do involving other fighters. Sometimes there is information from a source that tells us something. Like when Monzon went off the rails, or with Gatti and his wife. Most of the information we get is not reliable and allows one to simply pick and choose things they want to use to bolster, or disparage a fighter.

BTW, Jack London, who hated Johnson, would have jumped at the chance to label him a wife beater, just curious, did he do so? He called Johnson everything else... thats for sure.

One small bit of contention. Monzon didn't go "off the rails." He was quite the psychopath all along. There were stories (stories) that 'they' bought off a couple of **** accusations early in his career.

P.S. He use to smoke cigarettes while doing roadwork. Then never seemed to tire.

[Slugfester]

I guarantee whatever you KNOW about Johnson is not particular to what was known about other fighters... like Jack Dempsey who was accused of hitting his wife. Your singling Johnson out when you, nor anyone else, really understand the incidents involving Johnson anymore than we do involving other fighters. Sometimes there is information from a source that tells us something. Like when Monzon went off the rails, or with Gatti and his wife. Most of the information we get is not reliable and allows one to simply pick and choose things they want to use to bolster, or disparage a fighter.

BTW, Jack London, who hated Johnson, would have jumped at the chance to label him a wife beater, just curious, did he do so? He called Johnson everything else... thats for sure.

I know London hated Johnson and blasted him and publicly begged Jeffers to come out of retirement and wipe the smile from Johnson's mug. But calling him everything else? Now unless you can prove that you will sound like some of the others around here who practice deceit and absolute falsities to make their points. You are too good for this, from what I have read of yours. You got caught up in the heat and used a hyperbole. Right? Show me.

[Ivich]

One small bit of contention. Monzon didn't go "off the rails." He was quite the psychopath all along. There were stories (stories) that 'they' bought off a couple of **** accusations early in his career.

P.S. He use to smoke cigarettes while doing roadwork. Then never seemed to tire.

Monzon ran a couple of girls early in his career.

[QueensburyRules]

He is obsessed with bad mouthing him,its why he was banned for life from ESB

- - I remember when ESB banned itself things as their thugs flooded other sites they were so much out of control.

Guess you and they came back as Frenchy zombies now, eh?

[Ivich]

- - I remember when ESB banned itself things as their thugs flooded other sites they were so much out of control.

Guess you and they came back as Frenchy zombies now, eh?

I've been a member there for 17 years I haven't a clue to what you are referring but then , you usually don't either do you lol

Why don't you tell us again how blind Sam Langford ko'd Harry Wills? lol

Absurd doesn't begin to describe you!

[QueensburyRules]

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I've been a member for 17 years I haven't a clue to what you are referring but then , you usually don't either do you /ol

Why don't you tell us again how blind Sam Langford ko'd Harry Wills? lol

Absurd doesn't begin to describe you!

- - KOed Harry twice and was experiencing serious sight degradation by that time which is why he lost to Harry mostly.

Shame that you can see, but can never know...

[billeau2]

I know London hated Johnson and blasted him and publicly begged Jeffers to come out of retirement and wipe the smile from Johnson's mug. But calling him everything else? Now unless you can prove that you will sound like some of the others around here who practice deceit and absolute falsities to make their points. You are too good for this, from what I have read of yours. You got caught up in the heat and used a hyperbole. Right? Show me.

I think you misunderstood my point... Actually I know you misunderstood my point. I just don't know what conclusion you came to. I am genuinely confused.

Ok I think you think that I am saying London made claims against Johnson similar to Dr Z? If so, no that is not what I am saying at all. I am pointing out that if this information had been established London would have mentioned it.

[billeau2]

One small bit of contention. Monzon didn't go "off the rails." He was quite the psychopath all along. There were stories (stories) that 'they' bought off a couple of **** accusations early in his career.

P.S. He use to smoke cigarettes while doing roadwork. Then never seemed to tire.

The point was: Information about his behavoir and his vocation was known.