Joe Louis v Corrie Sanders?

[Ivich]

What are you trying to say? Louis shirked his training for the first Louis fight?

Another one of your lies and errors.

I've been out with friends ,I will put this falsification of yours to bed tomorrow .
See you then Liar!

[Ivich]

- - Sanders was an incredibly quick starting KO artist Southpaw with size and athleticism over most heavies, ie boxing was part time job where he was blacklisted for being a South African.

He made his $$$ playing rugby and golf.

Ol' timers are particularly vulnerable to southpaws who have taken over modern boxing by the numbers in spite of being a tiny portion of the population. They were not allowed to fight southpaw in the day because they couldn't get matches, so they switched orthodox.

Joe was a slow starter in general, very vulnerable to Corrie. Legend has no bearing in potential fights.

How much you lose this year on fights?

This post has some merit.

[Willie Pep 229]

Okay so that was a rare mistake by me. It does not change the fact that both men used the color line. Louis definitely avoided Southpaws. He wasn't an A$$ like Jack Johnson tough who wanted to be the only black heavyweight champion in history and rooted for Max.

Happy now?

Everyone avoided southpaws, so the story goes.

They say trainers would 'turn fighters around' just so they can get fights.

So IF Blackburn avoided leftys that would just make Louis normal.

Isn't Michael Moorer the first southpaw to win the HW title?

That comes quite late in the history of the game.

[them_apples]

Everyone avoided southpaws, so the story goes.

They say trainers would 'turn fighters around' just so they can get fights.

So IF Blackburn avoided leftys that would just make Louis normal.

Isn't Michael Moorer the first southpaw to win the HW title?

That comes quite late in the history of the game.

Also, it was a title, not THE title. To add a further point

[Ivich]

Everyone avoided southpaws, so the story goes.

They say trainers would 'turn fighters around' just so they can get fights.

So IF Blackburn avoided leftys that would just make Louis normal.

Isn't Michael Moorer the first southpaw to win the HW title?

That comes quite late in the history of the game.

How much money would Melio Bettina bring to the gate?

[Ivich]

I've been out with friends ,I will put this falsification of yours to bed tomorrow .
See you then Liar!

"Now look at me in May1936.I look back and get mad at myself,
I think I'm Mr Big ****,I know i'm going to win everything I want.
My record speaks for itself."
"**** I cant go wrong I got the money,I got the power."
" I took my clubs to camp with me."
" I had this idea I was going to do a lot of hard training for nothing.I thought I could name the round I would knock Schmeling out in.
Instead of training as I should have,I'd cut my training short,jump in the car and head for the golf course."
"Instead of boxing 6 rounds,I'd box three,punch the bag one round instead of two."
"I'd even sneak off to Atlantic City to see some girl whose name I can't even remember.
Instead of gradually working up to a physical peak,I began bearing down and melting off weight.Could take it off easy enough,but couldn't put it back on.That weakened me.
That's not all that weakened me,for the first and only time Marva was this close to me at camp time.I mean we were real young then Marva was 20,I was 22."
She stayed about two blocks from where I was staying.What can I say? I was young ,she was younger,and we'd just been married about 9 months."
" Abd the other girls were coming around like flies,I remember one time Chappie actually took a stick ,and threatened them,I found them anyway.
"those camp following girls took too much out of me."
" When I came to camp I weighed 216lbs, then I went down to 204lbs two weeks before the fight."
Louis was dehydrating himself spending hours in the sun playing golf.
"Everyone was upset Roxy, Black, and Chappie.Two times Roxy chased me off the golf course,I was dehydrating myself under that hot sun,I was
acting like a spoiled little boy.
" Chappie kept bugging me about Schmeling's right hand,I told him if that was all I had to worry about forget it.
Chappie kept on warning me Schmeling would probably want me to lead with a jab,hoping I'd drop my left arm and he would get me with a right.I didn't listen.I didn't listen to anyone."
"Joe Louis My Life."
There are reports confirming these quotes in Randy Roberts and Chris Mead's books on Louis.
So now stop with the hate and lies.

[Dr. Z]

How much money would Melio Bettina bring to the gate?

About as much as you typical bum of the month guy. Louis sparred with Bettina did so poorly his mangers outlawed him fighting south paws! I posted the information here for all to read.

Bettina mixed it with some of Louis opponents, and many black opponents Louis avoided and beat like Curtis " Hatchman Sheppard, and Jack " Tiger " Fox. Also Buddy Walker and Eddie Blunt. He also beat other Louis opponents like Jimmy Bivins, and Red Burman. A hall of fame fighter, and one who was very hard to knock out!

Hmmm... A tough Southpaw who could move and box. It makes sense why Louis avoided him.

[Ivich]

About as much as you typical bum of the month guy. Louis sparred with Bettina did so poorly his mangers outlawed him fighting south paws! I posted the information here for all to read.

Bettina mixed it with some of Louis opponents, and many black opponents Louis avoided and beat like Curtis " Hatchman Sheppard, and Jack " Tiger " Fox. Also Buddy Walker and Eddie Blunt. He also beat other Louis opponents like Jimmy Bivins, and Red Burman. A hall of fame fighter, and one who was very hard to knock out!

Hmmm... A tough Southpaw who could move and box. It makes sense why Louis avoided him.

Will you address my post above yours?The one that proves conclusively that Louis slacked off in his training for the first Schmeling fight,and blows your lies about him," training fine ,"completely out of the water!

This is your post below

"What are you trying to say? Louis shirked his training for the first Louis fight?

Another one of your lies and errors." Dr Z/Mendoza. Banned for life under both user names from ESB

YOU ARE A LYING P .O . S.

[Dr. Z]

It reliably reported that Louis shirked his training for the first Louis fight.
Do I have to post quotes from him to prove it?

How did Louis shirked his training for the first Louis fight? Please explain you dumb liar.

[Ivich]

About as much as you typical bum of the month guy. Louis sparred with Bettina did so poorly his mangers outlawed him fighting south paws! I posted the information here for all to read.

Bettina mixed it with some of Louis opponents, and many black opponents Louis avoided and beat like Curtis " Hatchman Sheppard, and Jack " Tiger " Fox. Also Buddy Walker and Eddie Blunt. He also beat other Louis opponents like Jimmy Bivins, and Red Burman. A hall of fame fighter, and one who was very hard to knock out!

Hmmm... A tough Southpaw who could move and box. It makes sense why Louis avoided him.

You've spent days slagging off Louis for the Galento fight saying Galento was very short with short arms.
Well Bettina at five feet nine was the same height as Galento but his reach of seventy inches was two inches shorter.If Louis had fought Bettina and dumped him you would be on here trumpeting about Louis fighting a short guy with short arms.You hypocritical ARSEHOLE.