Joe Frazier vs Jack Johnson

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  • shawnkemp804
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    #11
    A primitive boxer from the late 1800's early 1900's versus a modern skilled boxer? Lol Frazier would destroy Johnson.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #12
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

      When he landed a hard right hand on Ali, Ali mocked him with rubbery legs.

      His best right hand didn't hurt the best HW chin.

      I have to agree, he didn't bring his power up from LHW.

      Also Foster always looked like a LHW, while the others (Moorer, Holyfield, Spinks) all grew in size, some legally some from PEDs, but Foster always looked like a LHW.
      - - If Sheriff Bob couldn't put you out with his right, he'd slap the cuffs on and haul you to jail...

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        #13
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

        When he landed a hard right hand on Ali, Ali mocked him with rubbery legs.

        His best right hand didn't hurt the best HW chin.

        I have to agree, he didn't bring his power up from LHW.

        Also Foster always looked like a LHW, while the others (Moorer, Holyfield, Spinks) all grew in size, some legally some from PEDs, but Foster always looked like a LHW.
        Foster was a light heavyweight who fought as a small heavyweight . He never weighed above 188 pounds, which isn't even the old curser weight limit of 190.

        Johnson's best wins all were under 195 pounds too if you want the truth. Frazier would butcher Johnson the same way he did to Foster expect it would likely go past one round

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          #14
          Originally posted by Slugfester
          Foster's punch was murderous to light heavyweights, but I don't think it was with true heavies, far as I know.
          That is the conclusion most reached regarding the Frazier fight. It certainly is logical.

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            I think it would be a very interesting fight between the swarmer Joe Frazier and the tactical genius Jack Johnson. Frazier was a two-dimensional fighter and Johnson was a five-dimensional fighter. Johnson would love Frazier coming forward all the time. Frazier would suit Johnson's style perfectly because Frazier only knew one way to fight. I can see Johnson winning this one in round 12.

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            • Willie Pep 229
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              #16
              Originally posted by Ingo Bingo
              I think it would be a very interesting fight between the swarmer Joe Frazier and the tactical genius Jack Johnson. Frazier was a two-dimensional fighter and Johnson was a five-dimensional fighter. Johnson would love Frazier coming forward all the time. Frazier would suit Johnson's style perfectly because Frazier only knew one way to fight. I can see Johnson winning this one in round 12.
              Five dimensions? Damn, list them for me I'm slow on the pick-up?



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                #17
                Originally posted by Ingo Bingo
                I think it would be a very interesting fight between the swarmer Joe Frazier and the tactical genius Jack Johnson. Frazier was a two-dimensional fighter and Johnson was a five-dimensional fighter. Johnson would love Frazier coming forward all the time. Frazier would suit Johnson's style perfectly because Frazier only knew one way to fight. I can see Johnson winning this one in round 12.
                How by throwing 15 punches a round? Frazier forward moving style and abiilty to create pressure is unlike any that Johnson fought.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Ingo Bingo
                  I think it would be a very interesting fight between the swarmer Joe Frazier and the tactical genius Jack Johnson. Frazier was a two-dimensional fighter and Johnson was a five-dimensional fighter. Johnson would love Frazier coming forward all the time. Frazier would suit Johnson's style perfectly because Frazier only knew one way to fight. I can see Johnson winning this one in round 12.
                  - - Early KO for Joe who was a notorious slow starter, but not vs JJohnson.

                  Before he won the Burns belt, Johnson had several KO losses, and several more after Willard, and none of them against Big George.

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                  • Ingo Bingo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                    Five dimensions? Damn, list them for me I'm slow on the pick-up?


                    Jack Johnson´s five dimensions are Tactical, Strategic, Powerful, Technical, and Defensive master. The more tools you have in your box the greater your success.

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                    • Ingo Bingo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z

                      How by throwing 15 punches a round? Frazier forward moving style and abiilty to create pressure is unlike any that Johnson fought.
                      Jack Johnson would of course adapt to the Frazier style of boxing. Great boxers always do. He fought so many styles so I can't see any problem with that.

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