Joe Frazier vs Jack Johnson

[QueensburyRules]

Did you watch those fights? Especially the Young fight?

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[billeau2]

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They are all on Utube lol. Its not like when you had to wait for a sydicate program like "the way we were" to show the great fights of the past.

[Ingo Bingo]

Yes, I have seen those fights. I have been following the heavyweight division for over 50 years now.

[kara]

Yes, I have seen those fights. I have been following the heavyweight division for over 50 years now.

This man knows his heavyweights

[Ascended]

Frazier would destroy him no one made midcard fighting like Jack in 70s,way to obsolete

[Ascended]

A primitive boxer from the late 1800's early 1900's versus a modern skilled boxer? Lol Frazier would destroy Johnson.

The average amateur would from 30-40s would let alone one in 70s

[sleazyfellow]

Jack had a great uppercut, but I feel Frazier is just too much. If you could get Johnson with a more modern training program and bulk him up a bit more he might be a problem. The eras are just so different, one where they were barely coming out of the bare knuckle stuff and basically learning on the job vs Fraziers era which we all know about how great it is.

[Ivich]

If they each fought in their respective styles during their prime, Frazier wins it easily. Johnson wouldn’t have a size advantage as he did with his best wins over Burns, Ketchel, Jeannette, Langford, Kaufman, Fitz, etc. he also wouldn’t be able to get away with his holding and clinching tactics he used to wrestle and wear down smaller opponents.

Wlad got away with holding and clinching,why wouldn't Johnson?

[Ivich]

To lose fights isnīt always a bad thing. It could be a learning experience. In those days it was. They werenīt as protected as they are today. I think Johnson
vs Foreman would be an easier fight for Johnson than the fight against Frazier. Foreman had few tools in the box. He was very predictable.

Foreman had a jab a left hook a right cross and an uppercut,thats more tools than Frazier ever showed us! Frazier fought the same way everytime his stature demanded that he did ,he was the predictable one.

[Dr. Z]

Wlad got away with holding and clinching,why wouldn't Johnson?

Johnson only did well clinching smaller men, shorter men, lighter men, or older past their prime men on film. He could not clinch with Willard, he was smart enough not even to try! That what the film shows. Do you watch it?

That is why he could not clinch vs. Wlad. With his low guard, lean back defensive style, and mostly stationary feet , Johnson had neither the chin, the size, or the style to last long. Or the one punch power to get lucky. He did not throw may punches either.

This fantasy fight is a mismatch. Big time. Wlad via KO within six rounds.