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  • Slugfester
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    #11
    Originally posted by HawkHogan
    I can't watch the tiktok.

    I don't have any issue, like politicly or whatever, it just will not load for me.
    Me too.

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    • Willie Pep 229
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      #12
      I got an immediate block with a message (down below) offering me to Install Tik Tok. I refused and then it let be view the video on Chrome.

      Try refusing the Tik Tok App request and see if that works.

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      • them_apples
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        #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        I work head movement and counters with a lot of the young guys at my gym. I'm better at teaching it than actually doing it, but I tell them it's easy to slip a punch, the trick is to be in a position to counter it. You got good skills, keep working g!
        I remember you had a bout back when I was on facebook. Didn’t you knock the guy out?

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        • them_apples
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          #14
          Originally posted by Slugfester

          Me too.
          Ill upload it on a diff app in the future. When I get some better work in this summer. Gonna try and pull some armstrong moves on these padwork warriors lol. Wish me luck.

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          • markusmod
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            #15
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

            Looking good. Nice right hand body shot.
            I am now in awe of them_apples

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            • Rockin'
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              #16
              You guys are working light, kind of hard to see much really.

              But I can ask why does the heel of your lead foot hit the ground before your toes when you are working your jab?

              If your shot is countered than you must first touch your toes to the canvas and then try to get out of the way. But it's too late to get out of the way.

              Offensively it's similar, you throw a jab and need a right hand right behind it. You must 'touch your toes' again to the canvas to bring any power with it. But again it's too late, the guy simply took a step backwards. The time lost reconnecting to the canvas is crucial and could cost you.

              Again, I understand that you were working light. But watch how your lead foot lands heel first on most of your jabs.

              Other than that you looked pretty smooth.

              Just think about staying off of that lead heel while you're shadow boxing, working the bag, sparring, etc, and throwing your jab.

              Every split second counts in there...............Rockin'Y
              Last edited by Rockin'; 03-24-2023, 01:20 AM.

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              • JAB5239
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                #17
                Originally posted by them_apples

                I remember you had a bout back when I was on facebook. Didn’t you knock the guy out?
                The first one was a knockout (after almost getting knocked out myself) the second a decision. You look much better than I ever did. At my age now, it's unlikely I'll ever look very good again (not that I ever was) but I'm still having fun.

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                • them_apples
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Rockin'Y
                  You guys are working light, kind of hard to see much really.

                  But I can ask why does the heel of your lead foot hit the ground before your toes when you are working your jab?

                  If your shot is countered than you must first touch your toes to the canvas and then try to get out of the way. But it's too late to get out of the way.

                  Offensively it's similar, you throw a jab and need a right hand right behind it. You must 'touch your toes' again to the canvas to bring any power with it. But again it's too late, the guy simply took a step backwards. The time lost reconnecting to the canvas is crucial and could cost you.

                  Again, I understand that you were working light. But watch how your lead foot lands heel first on most of your jabs.

                  Other than that you looked pretty smooth.

                  Just think about staying off of that lead heel while you're shadow boxing, working the bag, sparring, etc, and throwing your jab.

                  Every split second counts in there...............Rockin'Y
                  Good point. Noted!! Thats actually a very keen observation and makes sense
                  Last edited by them_apples; 03-24-2023, 10:51 AM.

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                  • billeau2
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by them_apples

                    Yessir its essentially âÃÂÃÂbaiting headmovementâÃÂàI ve been working on in for a few years now. Its a lost skill.

                    You may already know this but ill just type it out anyways:

                    headmovement is not for dodging punches, instead you put your head in positions to get them to throw first, then make them miss deliberately. Outside of stuff like pull counters its almost impossible to reflexively slip and counter stuff. Most of it is a rhythmic set up

                    basically like most of the old fighters did it.

                    the other factor is smooth movements are harder to pick up than sharp jerky ones.

                    theres an old analogy that the human brain is like a cup of goop, if you jar the cup the sludge splashes outside the cup. If the cup moves in the same direction as the force however, the sludge will not splash outside the cup. (Riding the punches). This allows the fighter to employ risk taking behaviour by appearing vulnerable.

                    my 2 cents sir. Flow like water
                    If someone has the composure, the physical control they should not need to reflexively duck because a duck generally puts one out of position. Again,I come at this as a martial artist lol so my perspective is different. You see guys doing a lot of what we call, in the Japanese arts Tai Sabaki, they bob and throw their heads around to avoid shots... When in fact this movement should be used sparelingly, the head should instead be protected by the shoulder, the angle, etc.

                    So yes, to me? head movement is absolutely to make the opponent miss.

                    Interesting analogy: Caleb Plant. He has absolutely no head movement and uses very extravegent body positioning. This IMO is why he gasses out. Movement has to be efficient. It is the art!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Rockin'X
                      You guys are working light, kind of hard to see much really.

                      But I can ask why does the heel of your lead foot hit the ground before your toes when you are working your jab?

                      If your shot is countered than you must first touch your toes to the canvas and then try to get out of the way. But it's too late to get out of the way.

                      Offensively it's similar, you throw a jab and need a right hand right behind it. You must 'touch your toes' again to the canvas to bring any power with it. But again it's too late, the guy simply took a step backwards. The time lost reconnecting to the canvas is crucial and could cost you.

                      Again, I understand that you were working light. But watch how your lead foot lands heel first on most of your jabs.

                      Other than that you looked pretty smooth.

                      Just think about staying off of that lead heel while you're shadow boxing, working the bag, sparring, etc, and throwing your jab.

                      Every split second counts in there...............Rockin'Y
                      Transferring weight into a punch also means not being on the heels. People dont often get how important transferring weight is for power. Always great to hear your observations!

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