How does Frazier vs Marciano play out?

[shawnkemp804]

Frazier by early round knockout since Frazier was actually a heavyweight by modern standards and Marciano was a 180 pound fighter.

[shawnkemp804]

Joe Frazier throws one left hook and knocks Marciano into a coma. End of fight.

[shawnkemp804]

Bugner was not a puncher. Yet on few times he opened up the defensive minded Bugner rocked Frazier. Stander was a bum and Ramos too, yet both visibly rocked Frazier in fights where they hardly landed at all.

Archie Moore was a top puncher in his day, and definitely hit harder than Bugner, Ramos, Stander and company! Frazier's chin was suspect. Rocky hit harder than mediocre punchers that knocked Frazier down, or visibly stunned him / bucked his knees.

Lol Archie Moore was a natural 160 pounder. Jersey Joe Walcott was a natural 190 pounder and was pushing 40 when he knocked down Marciano. 170 pound light punching Ted Lowry had Marciano out on his feet. But yeah you will spend things to fit your narrative to try to justify Marciano beating Frazier.

[Willie Pep 229]

Joe Frazier throws one left hook and knocks Marciano into a coma. End of fight.

Did a cute Italian girl once dump you ?

[Willie Pep 229]

Lol Archie Moore was a natural 160 pounder. Jersey Joe Walcott was a natural 190 pounder and was pushing 40 when he knocked down Marciano. 170 pound light punching Ted Lowry had Marciano out on his feet. But yeah you will spend things to fit your narrative to try to justify Marciano beating Frazier.

What the hell do you mean "natural 160 lb" - should we assume your definition of natural is his weight when a man is young?

Men may stop growing in height by 20 but they continue to thicken in size as they age.

A man at 20 is not his natural weight, that man is still growing more powerful and doesn't reach full strength to around 25-30. Athletes can push that to few years earlier.

But what a man's weight is at 20 is not his natural weight, that's still to come.

Example: Jimmy Ellis started his career at 157.

When the time comes for you to try to win an argument about Ellis are you going try to BS us into believing that Jimmy Ellis's 'natural weight' is 160 too?

You run off at the mouth with lots of facts, that often really have no relevance to the points you challenging.

[ShoulderRoll]

Joe Frazier was an Olympic gold medalist and would have a good 20-lb size advantage over Rocky Marciano. He takes it in my opinion.

Frazier weighed in at 205 for the Fight of the Century against Ali. Marciano weighed 185 against Jersey Joe Walcott. Hard to overcome a skill, power, AND size advantage.

[Ivich]

Joe Frazier throws one left hook and knocks Marciano into a coma. End of fight.

Common sense just ain't that common.

[Dr. Z]

Lol Archie Moore was a natural 160 pounder. Jersey Joe Walcott was a natural 190 pounder and was pushing 40 when he knocked down Marciano. 170 pound light punching Ted Lowry had Marciano out on his feet. But yeah you will spend things to fit your narrative to try to justify Marciano beating Frazier.

Frazier was down a lot more times is far less fights and by less punchers than Moore.

[Ivich]

Frazier was down a lot more times is far less fights and by less punchers than Moore.

Any of them weigh 188lbs?Any of them 38/41 years old?

[Dr. Z]

Any of them weigh 188lbs?Any of them 38/41 years old?

Archie Moore ( 38 ) was an ageless wonder and proved it by knocking out ranked contenders after this fight.

No one was 41.

Moore was much better than some of the journeyman that Frazier was stunned by or dropped.