Where do you rank Vitaly Klitschko all time amongst heavyweights?

[JAB5239]

- - You obsessing about links and viagra ain't a good look.

Vit already ranks high in the pantheon and only due to get higher once fat American get over their obsessive long defunct Russian hatred.

Why do you insist this is russian hatred? Let's talk about Loma, Golovkin or a whole bevy of Easter Europeans and see the hatred. You won't. I call it as is.

[Willow The Wisp]

QueensburyRules gets his hook into a fish and be forgets boxing. From there it's all about the troll prey. Seen it time and again. Why no ban? Because Cybil knows when to put the evil twin away and discuss boxing-history. Until someone else comes along and leans over the bridge. Vitali? Superb heavyweight. All Time no higher or lower than I've ranked him. Very likely.

[QueensburyRules]

Why do you insist this is russian hatred? Let's talk about Loma, Golovkin or a whole bevy of Easter Europeans and see the hatred. You won't. I call it as is.

- - You call it while unable to prove your mangy AOL existence.

The Ks and other Eastern Euros are arising as Western Nations turn to warm Taffy, so a decade from now when you see the new IBRO rankings, you will see them displace your favorites as happens throughout ratings history starting with Nat...DUH!!!

In Nat’s own words before his passing:

As I have had it listed in The Ring Record Book for some years, my all-time rating of heavyweights is as follows: 1. Jack Johnson, 2. Jim Jeffries, 3. Bob Fitzsimmons, 4. Jack Dempsey, 5. James J. Corbett, 6. Joe Louis, 7. Sam Langford, 8. Gene Tunney, 9. Max Schmeling, 10. Rocky Marciano.

Boxing History 101...simples!!!

[JAB5239]

- - You call it while unable to prove your mangy AOL existence.

The Ks and other Eastern Euros are arising as Western Nations turn to warm Taffy, so a decade from now when you see the new IBRO rankings, you will see them displace your favorites as happens throughout ratings history starting with Nat...DUH!!!

In Nat’s own words before his passing:

As I have had it listed in The Ring Record Book for some years, my all-time rating of heavyweights is as follows: 1. Jack Johnson, 2. Jim Jeffries, 3. Bob Fitzsimmons, 4. Jack Dempsey, 5. James J. Corbett, 6. Joe Louis, 7. Sam Langford, 8. Gene Tunney, 9. Max Schmeling, 10. Rocky Marciano.

Boxing History 101...simples!!!

I doubt with your pickled liver you will see Vits in the top 10 during your lifetime. What does that have to do with you accusing me of Hatred toward any group or nationality? You're a punk and a coward who resorts to this kind of cowardice because you have nothing else to fall back on.

I really don't care if you remember my on AOL or not. Kind of strange you obsession with it though.

[billeau2]

While the cult of Roy Jones had some exceptionally delusional narratives, the cult of the Klits has got to take the cake for ignoring reality. The level of competition Vitalie fought is damning... When you look at that aspect it tells all... I have seen people totally personalize their feelings about Vitalie and it is ridiculous. Boxing as a sport has levels. Amatuer level boxing is like college football when compared to the NFL, the game is fundamentally less complex. Fighters with long amateur careers can become great professional fighters and often do, but other fighters fight in an amateur fashion.

When Vitalie bowed out against Byrd this was eyebrow raising... When the boxing gods gave him a chance at redemption against an out of shape Lewis, Vitalie lacked the presence of mind to risk everything and try to win that fight before his eye degraded... Compare fighters like Foreman or Lyle who managed to stay in a fight where they were physically degraded, yet would not quit. Foreman risked his own loss to Ko Lyle.

Vitalie is solid. I believe he is ultimately better than Vlad. I would bet the house on him versus his brother... But Vitalie did not come through on things that great fighters come through on. We are left with a fighter who beat up on a weak division, had a great ammy career.

[QueensburyRules]

While the cult of Roy Jones had some exceptionally delusional narratives, the cult of the Klits has got to take the cake for ignoring reality. The level of competition Vitalie fought is damning... When you look at that aspect it tells all... I have seen people totally personalize their feelings about Vitalie and it is ridiculous. Boxing as a sport has levels. Amatuer level boxing is like college football when compared to the NFL, the game is fundamentally less complex. Fighters with long amateur careers can become great professional fighters and often do, but other fighters fight in an amateur fashion.

When Vitalie bowed out against Byrd this was eyebrow raising... When the boxing gods gave him a chance at redemption against an out of shape Lewis, Vitalie lacked the presence of mind to risk everything and try to win that fight before his eye degraded... Compare fighters like Foreman or Lyle who managed to stay in a fight where they were physically degraded, yet would not quit. Foreman risked his own loss to Ko Lyle.

Vitalie is solid. I believe he is ultimately better than Vlad. I would bet the house on him versus his brother... But Vitalie did not come through on things that great fighters come through on. We are left with a fighter who beat up on a weak division, had a great ammy career.

- - Vit kept their ama coach. There is no example I'm aware of where fighters such as the Ks from a culture of zero professional boxing turn pro using their ama coach to end up dominating all of boxing.

His opponents were only weak in your enfeebled eyes because they was getting KTFO. Guaranteed Vit vs the time line of tubby Lar would have his opponents with a 90% KO ratio over Tubby Lar opponents.

Yeah, that has to hurt, but tis what it tis forevermore...forevermore...

[Willie Pep 229]

- - You obsessing about links and viagra ain't a good look.

Vit already ranks high in the pantheon and only due to get higher once fat American get over their obsessive long defunct Russian hatred.

Russia certainly isn't helping us get over it.

[JAB5239]

Russia certainly isn't helping us get over it.

Funny thing is, the K's aren't even Russian. Queenie thinks it's still 1985 and those is Rocky V.

[QueensburyRules]

Funny thing is, the K's aren't even Russian. Queenie thinks it's still 1985 and those is Rocky V.

- - Funnier you was never on the AOL forum, but probably watched Rocky uncountable dozens of times.

[JAB5239]

- - Funnier you was never on the AOL forum, but probably watched Rocky uncountable dozens of times.

Is this all you've got? The last refuge of the pathetic and weak?

Prove I wasn't on AOL. You won't do that anymore than you can prove the Pep-Robinson fight was filmed. You're waek, sad....you're nothing.