Round Robin. Dempsey,Louis,Marciano.Tyson.Who Comes Out On Top?

[kara]

Pretty sure Ivich's talking about Z swerving the question by pointing out Tyson's the only living one.

Ah ok!

[Anthony342]

Pretty sure Ivich's talking about Z swerving the question by pointing out Tyson's the only living one.

As Vince Russo would say "Bro, it's a SWERVE" lol. I gotta go with Louis. Like Marciano, he usually found a way to win in his prime. I know he lost to Schmeling, but he won that rematch with a vengeance. As much as I love Marciano, I don't usually favor him in too many head to head matchups, except against come forward brawler types. Oh and "hoo hoo, Robin", as Anthony Cumia would say in his Howard Stern impression.

[shawnkemp804]

As a person who can't stand Mike Tyson I would still say this. Tyson in his prime would beat Louis, Marciano, and Dempsey in the same night.

[Incapable]

Pathetic,puerile ,pedantry.

Yep. That's right.

[Slugfester]

Part of Tyson's boxing gestalt came from studying those three, while they never heard of him. They know nothing about him, yet he has studied them in detail. Big advantage. I believe Tyson wins fairly easily against this crew, Dempsey bothering him most, is how I see it. A quick blizzard of punches is likely to take the Rock out early.

Don't be inane, men. No recovery time between matches is necessary in an imaginary tournament. The identical fighter fights the second match as the first. Because that is when the man was in his prime.

[Incapable]

I think Tyson has the most chance of winning early against em all.
Dempsey V Marciano, what a war. Can't decide honestly.
Frazier beats Rocky in an absolute classic, by late ko.
Dempsey V frazier, Jack early or Joe late.

[Hooded Terror]

A fast start always beats a slow one, provided handwraps are carefully checked. For me, Tyson sweeps them.
With Dempsey, the handwraps being monitored are a must given what history suggests. As for Dempsey as champion, he made everybody wait while he indulged himself, to say nothing of any color lines drawn and observed.

[Ivich]

A fast start always beats a slow one, provided handwraps are carefully checked. For me, Tyson sweeps them.
With Dempsey, the handwraps being monitored are a must given what history suggests. As for Dempsey as champion, he made everybody wait while he indulged himself, to say nothing of any color lines drawn and observed.

Dempsey's hand wraps were checked as they were applied , Walter Monahan, Willard's chief second doing the observing .Willard inspected Dempsey's hands in the ring. Dempsey broke the jaw in two places of sparring partner 7ft ,300lbs Big Ben Wray,with one left hook.

[Willie Pep 229]

A fast start always beats a slow one, provided handwraps are carefully checked. For me, Tyson sweeps them.
With Dempsey, the handwraps being monitored are a must given what history suggests. As for Dempsey as champion, he made everybody wait while he indulged himself, to say nothing of any color lines drawn and observed.

Agree Dempsey indugled himself by sitting on the title. We the fans lost out. He probably could have beaten Tunney if he took him in 1924.

Let me offer two mitigations . . . He had one hell of a climb, and a short brtual reign) that probably left him exhausted by 1924. He was no Cassius Clay Olympic Champion or even a Joe Frazier, both financed by the wealthy men, rich guys' hobby, e.g. race horses, sail boats, boxers. Dempsey had to barnstorm often for bet money.

Second IMO Dempsey lost faith in Doc Kearns after the fiasco in Shelby (Tommy Gibbons) summer 1923.

After that Dempsey fought again in September 1923 agsinst Firpo in New York, for Tex Rickard. Rickard got him 500K plus - Dempsey had to surrender half of that to Kearns.

Dempsey believed his handshake contract with Kearns ended with 1926. He showed no sign of wanting to fight again until after New Year's 1926.

Kearns of course would chase him (sue him) for the Tunney and Sharkey purses, of '26 and '27, but not get any.

I think Dempsey took 1924 off from exhaustion and then decided it was to his (big) economic advantage (50%) to wait one more year until '26.

P.S. After dumping Kearns Dempsey replaced him with Floyd Fitzsimmons. Fitz seems to be an old friend. He promoted the Miske fight; he took Dempsey into the ill fated Wills contract with a Chicago Athletic Club. Then finally appearing in Dempsey's camp as sopkesperson for Tunney I ('26).

After the Miske fight Dempsey bought Fitz's wife a 15K car as a gift, in a 1920 economy (Model T $650). I wonder if it was some type of Fighter-Promoter tax dodge?

[thebrownbomber_]

Tyson.