Top 10 P4P ever in terms of H2H

[IronDanHamza]

I don't like the way that sounds!

Why does money jump to mind?

Wonder which scantioning body PAC was connected with, and which Mosely?

The Ring Magazine! Um?

P.S. I guess there is an inactivity argument that can be made. But this seems a touch quick.

Pacquaio was extremely popular at the time having just destroyed Oscar and Hatton.

Then beating Cotto from pillar to post was very impressive. That’s the logic I’m assuming they used.

[The D3vil]

I can't say I agree with the list with guys like Nunn & Toney on it.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson - would be favored over everybody ever from 135-154 and probably 160 too. Would've won 175lb belt, if he didn't pass out from heat exhaustion before the last round of his title fight with Joey Maxim.

2. Roy Jones Jr. The best pure athlete with the best reflexes in the history of the sport in his prime

3. Muhammad Ali - a 6'3" heavyweight with the speed of a middleweight. Could beat anybody who ever fought in any division (obviously)

4. Henry Armstrong - from 126-147 an absolute buzzsaw and the GOAT pressure fighter

5. Roberto Duran - Greatest lightweight of all-time & beat the 2nd greatest WW of all-time at WW

6. Manny Pacquaio - Nobody and I mean nobody could go from 108lbs to 154lbs. Arguably, Pacquaio could theoretically beat the most all-time great fighters in the most divisions of anybody based on that fact.

7. Oscar De La Hoya - How many people could theoretically beat ATG's from 135-160 other than Robinson?

8. Tommy Hearns - could beat almost anybody between 147-175 outside of ATGs in his prime. Bad luck running into GOAT level WWs & MWs in Leonard & Hagler. Beats just about anybody else.

9. Mike Tyson - Controversial pick, but the '86-'89 version of Tyson was lightning fast, had power in both hands, was one of the best combination punchers in history, and had impregnable "peek a boo" defense. Burned out fast, but for a short period of time was Ring's Pound for Pound King. Underrated chin

10. Alexis Auguello - Could theoretically beat anybody ever from 126-140. Almost beat a possibly dirty Pryor, who himself is probably the GOAT at 140.

[QueensburyRules]

Nothing happened.

Mosley was struggling to get a fight, ending up signing to fight Andre Berto for January of 2010 which fell through due to the Earthqauke in Haiti.

Then Pacquaio performance against Cotto I guess The Ring deemed good enough to place him #1, with Mosley now #2.

From Jan 2009-November 2009, Mosley was #1.

- - Manny has has the most Ring #1 p4p ratings in history, the most consecutive p4p ratings during his his 27 year career, and consecutive #1 p4p, as well as fought, beat, and KOed the most p4p fighters in history, and did it in an adversarial atmosphere with him caught in the feud between Arum and Oscar.

Been written in stone for ages now, but not with you who seem more than a little unstudied about most boxing matters.

[IronDanHamza]

- - Manny has has the most Ring #1 p4p ratings in history, the most consecutive p4p ratings during his his 27 year career, and consecutive #1 p4p, as well as fought, beat, and KOed the most p4p fighters in history, and did it in an adversarial atmosphere with him caught in the feud between Arum and Oscar.

Been written in stone for ages now, but not with you who seem more than a little unstudied about most boxing matters.

And that has what to do with the fact Mosley was the #1 ranked WW in the world when Roach and team refused to entertain a fight with him and Pacquaio at the 147 limit because he’s “too good”?

[QueensburyRules]

And that has what to do with the fact Mosley was the #1 ranked WW in the world when Roach and team refused to entertain a fight with him and Pacquaio at the 147 limit because he’s “too good”?

- - Which has nothing to do with with BALCO Shane not having his manager pursue a fight thru legit promotional channels. I coulda showed up and ask Freddie the same and gotten the same response...boohoohoo...

[Willow The Wisp]

I can't say I agree with the list with guys like Nunn & Toney on it.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson - would be favored over everybody ever from 135-154 and probably 160 too. Would've won 175lb belt, if he didn't pass out from heat exhaustion before the last round of his title fight with Joey Maxim.

2. Roy Jones Jr. The best pure athlete with the best reflexes in the history of the sport in his prime

3. Muhammad Ali - a 6'3" heavyweight with the speed of a middleweight. Could beat anybody who ever fought in any division (obviously)

4. Henry Armstrong - from 126-147 an absolute buzzsaw and the GOAT pressure fighter

5. Roberto Duran - Greatest lightweight of all-time & beat the 2nd greatest WW of all-time at WW

6. Manny Pacquaio - Nobody and I mean nobody could go from 108lbs to 154lbs. Arguably, Pacquaio could theoretically beat the most all-time great fighters in the most divisions of anybody based on that fact.

7. Oscar De La Hoya - How many people could theoretically beat ATG's from 135-160 other than Robinson?

8. Tommy Hearns - could beat almost anybody between 147-175 outside of ATGs in his prime. Bad luck running into GOAT level WWs & MWs in Leonard & Hagler. Beats just about anybody else.

9. Mike Tyson - Controversial pick, but the '86-'89 version of Tyson was lightning fast, had power in both hands, was one of the best combination punchers in history, and had impregnable "peek a boo" defense. Burned out fast, but for a short period of time was Ring's Pound for Pound King. Underrated chin

10. Alexis Auguello - Could theoretically beat anybody ever from 126-140. Almost beat a possibly dirty Pryor, who himself is probably the GOAT at 140.

Much better list than the thread starter's, obviously.
Threadstarter, no offense.

[IronDanHamza]

- - Which has nothing to do with with BALCO Shane not having his manager pursue a fight thru legit promotional channels. I coulda showed up and ask Freddie the same and gotten the same response...boohoohoo...

Shane was with Golden Boy at the time you moron.

He went to visit Roach personally to discuss the fight and Roach shared the details of that meeting, that fighting him at the 147 limit at that time was not an option because he’s “too good”.

That’s the fact of the matter.

[QueensburyRules]

Shane was with Golden Boy at the time you moron.

He went to visit Roach personally to discuss the fight and Roach shared the details of that meeting, that fighting him at the 147 limit at that time was not an option because he’s “too good”.

That’s the fact of the matter.

- - Why Shane cut out Oscar?

What Freddie told Mosley irrelevant to the schedule Manny mapped out. Freddie don't make fights, Manny and Arum do. Mosley askeered of Manny?

[IronDanHamza]

- - Why Shane cut out Oscar?

What Freddie told Mosley irrelevant to the schedule Manny mapped out. Freddie don't make fights, Manny and Arum do. Mosley askeered of Manny?

He didn’t cut anyone out. He went there for a private meeting to talk about the fight with Roach who was a big part of Pacquaio’s team for preliminary talks and it was shut down at the first hurdle by them.

What Roach told Mosley was totally relevant you idiot because Mosley was the #1 ranked WW in the world at the time.

[QueensburyRules]

Nothing happened.

Mosley was struggling to get a fight, ending up signing to fight Andre Berto for January of 2010 which fell through due to the Earthqauke in Haiti.

Then Pacquaio performance against Cotto I guess The Ring deemed good enough to place him #1, with Mosley now #2.

From Jan 2009-November 2009, Mosley was #1.

- - Did Berto's trainer snag the fight for him?

Mosley briefly #1 at the start of the decade, and end of the decade #2 below Manny who was getting started in the Welters. Manny ain't gonna be dictated to by a GoldenBoy BALCO fighter after winning a civil suit against him and the Crack Daddy l'l floydy family.
2008

Title Vacant
Antonio Margarito
Miguel Angel Cotto
Shane Mosley
Joshua Clottey
Manny Pacquiao
Carlos Quintana
Zab Judah
Luis Collazo
Andre Berto
Isaac Hlatshwayo

2009
Title Vacant
Manny Pacquiao
Shane Mosley
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Miguel Cotto
Joshua Clottey
Antonio Margarito
Andre Berto
Luis Collazo
Rafal Jackiewicz
Jan Zaveck