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When was the last time a smaller man beat a good top ten ring magazine ranked larger man on points in a significant fight at heavyweight?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post

    Byrd is 6ft 2 in and for that fight weighed 210 3/4lbs.

    He was giving away 5 inches of height , 33lbs and took the fight on10 days notice.
    And fought in Germany.
    Ivich Ivich likes this.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      And fought in Germany.
      The Klits second home.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        And fought in Germany.
        He did not win on points. The thread title is. " When was the last time a smaller man beat a good top ten ring magazine ranked larger man on points in a significant fight at heavyweight?"

        ​I defined what a smaller man if you read the post.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

          He did not win on points. The thread title is. " When was the last time a smaller man beat a good top ten ring magazine ranked larger man on points in a significant fight at heavyweight?"

          ​I defined what a smaller man if you read the post.
          I really don't need you to define anything for me. I can see Usyk was the much smaller man compared to AJ. I can see Holyfield was the much smaller man compared to Valuev. Are you saying they weren't, or are you trying to be as rigid as possible just to prove some kind of point?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

            I really don't need you to define anything for me. I can see Usyk was the much smaller man compared to AJ. I can see Holyfield was the much smaller man compared to Valuev. Are you saying they weren't, or are you trying to be as rigid as possible just to prove some kind of point?
            No, you aren't reading my stuff. Usyk is not a small man, at least he is not a sub 210 pounds fighter with a limited reach as stated. There may be an exception to the theory I'm open to reading it. But arm twisting stuff is what is clearly defined is not under consideration. Holyfield is the lone man to defy my theory and it happen in a via very close decision that some people disagreed with , but I am counting it to be fair.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

              No, you aren't reading my stuff. Usyk is not a small man, at least he is not a sub 210 pounds fighter with a limited reach as stated. There may be an exception to the theory I'm open to reading it. But arm twisting stuff is what is clearly defined is not under consideration. Holyfield is the lone man to defy my theory and it happen in a via very close decision that some people disagreed with , but I am counting it to be fair.
              A smaller fighter is a smaller fighter, end of story. Trying to take more things away just to make some point.....ridiculous.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Usyk beat Joshua. Byrd beat Vits. Holyfield should have been given the decision over Valuev.
                - - Shoulda been given the decision over Belfort is what U mean so he can be licensed again and unify the fractured heavy division like his Lord commanded him.

                U and Holy the gifts that keep on giving...priceless!!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Shoulda been given the decision over Belfort is what U mean so he can be licensed again and unify the fractured heavy division like his Lord commanded him.

                  U and Holy the gifts that keep on giving...priceless!!!
                  Lmao.....I forgot you are a Valuev fanboi. Which reminds me...Ruiz arguably beat Valuev as well.

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                  • #19
                    Are we counting height and/or weight?

                    Braddock was 15 pounds lighter than Baer and one half inch shorter. Does that work?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
                      Are we counting height and/or weight?

                      Braddock was 15 pounds lighter than Baer and one half inch shorter. Does that work?
                      We are counting recent history as in the past 30 years with skilled super heavyweights. Anyway I believe Baer tanked this fight, and I say that after watching it closely, as he is not trying. So far the only man to win vs a skilled super heavyweight via decision is Holyfield. Valuev isn't very skilled by the way.

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