Tunney Versus jack Johnson who wins and why

[Ivich]

- - I'll take boxrec over U idiocy. They use sources for their site.

Y ask Y when when U are so prolific?

You have no answer to my questions,you're just a numpty who gets off by posting crap .
So just jog on you imbecile!

[Dr. Z]

You've forced me to admit nothing Burns DID NOT WIN A ROUND YOU ILLITERATE IDIOT!
Read the fight reports!

LAIR? lol Mendoza the MR MALAPROP of the Forum!

How does that make me a lair, as Burns did win a round and you haven't seen the full fight! You are the liar. Nobody believes for BS.

[Dr. Z]

He's been doing that on Forums for years.
His phobic hate has unhinged him.
In the past on Forums he's posted.
Johnson and Jeffries were level after 10 rds
The Johnson and Moran fight was a close fight.
The Johnson and Battling Johnson fight was shortened to10rds to save Johnson's title.
The Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed.he bet me on that one and his excuse for reneging on the wager was there was a re-enactment made ,and so that counted as the fight being filmed!
He claims a friend of his has seen film of Harry Greb in a real fight but he is sworn to secrecy over it.Steve Crompton exposed him on that.
That he has seen the Langford v Hague fight. Steve Crompton who wrote the Greb book , called him a bare-faced liar on that one.
That the first Jeffries and Corbett fight was very close before Jeffries landed the ko.

That Jeffries would have defended against Johnson if the money was right.

That Gunboat Smith dropped Johnson in a spar and so that counts as a tko.

That Free Masons are *****philes and Devil Worshippers.

Mendoza hasnt been rational for years, the man's a fruit loop!

Once he has filled his boots dumping on Johnson,he will turn his attention to Joe Louis whom he has already called a liar,and accused of having crooked judges protect him .
After tearing Louis down ,his modus operandi of hate will see him attack Muhammad Ali ,and Joe Frazier.

Three fighters he will not attack, but will always boost with hyperbole and lies are ;
Jim Jeffries,Vitali Klitschko,and Wladimir Klitschko,and you can draw your own conclusions about that!

A lot to unpack here for a crazy old man.

1 ) I never said it was even after ten, I said it could have been ruled a draw after 10 rounds under the rules of the times! Nice of you to lie about what I said. Again Jeffries won the 4th and the 9th with many of the early rounds being even.

2 ) Johnson vs Moran was close. Johnson won it and fouls Moran on film like I showed you. I also offer your to score it and the filmed Willard rounds. Your delined!

3 ) The bet clearly was the fight filmed. It was and you lose.

4 ) Battling Jim vs Jack Johnson was listed at 20 rounds at the cyber boxing zone. I quoted them! Thy have since updated their web site.

5 ) I never said I saw a Greb fight! You lying is never ending! Show me the thread? You still can read the forum there, can't you? I can read there. If anything is what you say ifs true provide the link! Open challenge!

6 ) You claimed to see the Hague vs Langford fights and we exposed for being wrong!

7 ) Gunboat Smith did drop Johnson! Read the NY Times repot of the exhibition match, Johnson was down & woozy and his manger had to stop the fight!

Let your masons redeem you! That is if some is willing to do it. You're a liar.


PS: I like many fighters, Mayweather, Holmes, and SRR are among them. I don't like over rated fighter who back out of fights, lie, and fights nobodies as champion. You defend them!

YOU hate all white accomplished heavies pre 1960, save your fake admiration for Jack Dempsey. Gee I wonder why. You'll will go to your gave a liar and I don't thing that will be long. There is still time to come clean.

[Ivich]

How does that make me a lair, as Burns did win a round and you haven't seen the full fight! You are the liar. Nobody believes for BS.

You're so dense you don't even pick up on your own spelling mistakes when they are posted back to you! LAIR LOL
No ringside reporters gave Burns a single round.
"Nobody beiieves for BS?"
More Mendoza speak lol.
ps I've just been discussing you with a guy who runs several boxing forums.
He recognized you when I described your spelling howlers and your Johnson hatred

[Ivich]

A lot to unpack here for a crazy old man.

1 ) I never said it was even after ten, I said it could have been ruled a draw after 10 rounds under the rules of the times! Nice of you to lie about what I said. Again Jeffries won the 4th and the 9th with many of the early rounds being even.

2 ) Johnson vs Moran was close. Johnson won it and fouls Moran on film like I showed you. I also offer your to score it and the filmed Willard rounds. Your delined!

3 ) The bet clearly was the fight filmed. It was and you lose.

4 ) Battling Jim vs Jack Johnson was listed at 20 rounds at the cyber boxing zone. I quoted them! Thy have since updated their web site.

5 ) I never said I saw a Greb fight! You lying is never ending! Show me the thread? You still can read the forum there, can't you? I can read there. If anything is what you say ifs true provide the link! Open challenge!

6 ) You claimed to see the Hague vs Langford fights and we exposed for being wrong!

7 ) Gunboat Smith did drop Johnson! Read the NY Times repot of the exhibition match, Johnson was down & woozy and his manger had to stop the fight!

Let your masons redeem you! That is if some is willing to do it. You're a liar.


PS: I like many fighters, Mayweather, Holmes, and SRR are among them. I don't like over rated fighter who back out of fights, lie, and fights nobodies as champion. You defend them!

YOU hate all white accomplished heavies pre 1960, save your fake admiration for Jack Dempsey. Gee I wonder why. You'll will go to your gave a liar and I don't thing that will be long. There is still time to come clean.

YOUR DELINED?
You don't THING I will live much longer?
WE exposed for being wrong
One thing is certain,I won't live long enough to see you make a sentence that doesn't need correcting for spelling mistakes! LOL
Calling Sam Langford, Sang Froid is still your defining moment of glory!


1.If it could have been ruled a draw,by definition that is an EVEN FIGHT you sad clown!

2. The Johnson v Moran fight was not close and no ringside reporter suggested it was.

The fight Fitz v Ruhlin was not filmed ,what was filmed was a re-enactment with Ruhlin's
face covered in theatrical greasepaint to hide his injuries
.Corbett had been Ruhlin's chief second,and when it was spotted he was not in the film,having returned to San Francisco, the fake film was denounced.
The fact that even now you think this is a valid excuse for you reneging on our bet just proves what a **** you are!

3.You tried to pretend it was scheduled for 20 rds and said it was shortened to 10 to save Johnson's title.

,A good friend of mine Matt Donnellon posted the original bill which clearly showed the fight was scheduled for 10 rounds!

4.You said a friend of yours, a member of the IBHOF had seen the Greb fight and that you were sworn to secrecy not to reveal his name LOL.Again Compton called you a LIAR as did others!

5.YOU claimed to have seen the Langford v Hague fight and when Compton called you on it and called you a liar you shut up after saying,".you dont know what I've seen".

What YOU meant was YOU don't know what you've seen!

I know what happened in the Hague fight something unique apertaining to Langford happened in the ring even before the fight began.
I asked you what it was ,as if you had seen the fight you would know.You didn't reply because YOU didnt know!

6.I didn't say Smith didn't drop Johnson, I said it was a sparring session and Johnson was not tko'd ,you can't be in a sparring session. Johnson sparred a further 2 rounds each with 2 other sparring partners after the Smith spar do you want me to name them? I can!.

If you could be tko'd in a sparring session
Marciano, who was dropped by Toxie Hall when sparring for the ****ell fight.

Bob Fitzsimmons who was dropped in sparring by Geoff Thorne.

Jim Jeffries who was dropped in a spar by JIm Corbett in a hand ball court in front of two witnesses,

Jeffries who was dropped in an exhibition by Jack Munroe.

Vitali Klitscko who was dropped in sparring sessions by both Travis Walker and Raphael Butler.

Would all have tko's against them on their records!

Guess what, they don't!
I have admiration for many white heavyweight fighters pre 1960 I am white myself why would I not?
I have great respect for
Fitzsimmons
Choynski
T Sharkey
Maher
Sullivan
Burns
Dempsey
Tunney
Risko
Loughran
Delaney
Gibbons
Miske
Among many others.



You're a ridiculous figure on fight forums,the guy I was talking to today said, you ."have several cards missing from your deck."
How right he is!

[Willow The Wisp]

While Johnson and Tunney would mesh for a brilliant tactical and strategic display like perhaps no other pairing ever; Dr. Z And Ivich is a SLUGFEST!!!!!!!!!

[Ivich]

While Johnson and Tunney would mesh for a brilliant tactical and strategic display like perhaps no other pairing ever; Dr. Z And Ivich is a SLUGFEST!!!!!!!!!

Naah its about as competitive as Willard v Dempsey or Patterson v Liston. EASY PEASY!
I know that muppet's MO inside out I can yank his chain ,any time I want, just like Pavlov rang bells for his dogs.

[GhostofDempsey]

You're so dense you don't even pick up on your own spelling mistakes when they are posted back to you! LAIRLOL
No ringside reporters gave Burns a single round.
"Nobody beiieves for BS?"
More Mendoza speak lol.
ps I've just been discussing you with a guy who runs several boxing forums.
He recognized you when I described your spelling howlers and your Johnson hatred

Did you really just try to play grammar ****...while misspelling a couple of words yourself?! Stop freebasing your meds and take them as prescribed.

[Ivich]

Did you really just try to play grammar ****...while misspelling a couple of words yourself?! Stop freebasing your meds and take them as prescribed.

You need to read his content he is an illiterate fool.
Since you are now messaging me every five minutes, I'll wait until you have done so 4 or 5 times then get rid of all the sewage in one go.

[Ivich]

Did you really just try to play grammar ****...while misspelling a couple of words yourself?! Stop freebasing your meds and take them as prescribed.

Did you not notice the inverted commas around nobody beliives and Lair they are his misspelling I just posted it back to him as I explained , you muppet!