Bob Foster v Georges Carpentier at175lbs?

[Ivich]

I think you're wrong. Why base your opinion on him by Dempsey.. Dempsey was only 1.5 inches taller and maybe 7-8 lbs heavier Carpentier, was near career end..

He was a pro at 14, was French and European Welter ,Middle, LH and Heavyweight Champ by age 19. a phenomenon.. A really excellent boxer, highly skilled, with a KO punch. Stretched out all the top British Heavies in a minute or two at 18 years old.. Had reasonable longevity. Foster was not nearly as good a boxer had only his height and that very long armed left hook. He fought in weak era..Best opponents were washed up former welters and middles When he won the title from **** Tiger Tiger was 40, 14 years older, on the skids, 5'7" shorter by 8 inches shorter reach by 7 inches at the end of his career, already sick and died just over 2 years later.

I pick class and KO power of Carpentier.

You are entitled to your opinion,but please answer me this.

Which light heavies did Carpentier beat.? Levinsky who hid behind the no dec rule for years.Who else? Carpentier lost his title to one of the worst champions ever Battling Siki.
Carpentier weighed 168lbs the morning of the Dempsey fight ,but his weight was given as176lbs.Source Georges Carpentier. Dempsey weighed 188lbs =20lbs difference Dempsey was six feet one Carpentier 5 feet eleven=2 inches difference. Carpentier was just 27 years old when he fought Dempsey ie in his prime. The British heavies in that era were dire .

Bob Foster had a much better llhvy resume than Carpentier its not even debateable.

Fourie 44-2-1 x2
Finnegan 23-2-1
Quarry 35-0-0
Rondon the other reigning champ.
Carroll 23-3-0
Tessman31-1-0
Hank
Depaula.
Foster floored and ko'd the very durable Finnegan with a right hand, he had two fisted power and a great jab with which he cut Ali'.
Tiger fought for another 2 years after the Foster fight winning his next 3 against Depaula,Kendall and Benvenuti,his only loss was to Griffith.
Tiger was 37 when he fought Foster in1968 and he wasn't sick and he did not die until December 1971 3 years later.
Tiger was five feet 8 inches tall.
Want to compare his size to that of Welterweight Ted Kid Lewis when he fought 175lbs Carpentier?

[Willie Pep 229]

You are entitled to your opinion,but please answer me this.

Which light heavies did Carpentier beat.? Levinsky who hid behind the no dec rule for years.Who else? Carpentier lost his title to one of the worst champions ever Battling Siki.
Carpentier weighed 168lbs the morning of the Dempsey fight ,but his weight was given as176lbs.Source Georges Carpentier. Dempsey weighed 188lbs =20lbs difference Dempsey was six feet one Carpentier 5 feet eleven=2 inches difference. Carpentier was just 27 years old when he fought Dempsey ie in his prime. The British heavies in that era were dire .

Bob Foster had a much better llhvy resume than Carpentier its not even debateable.

Fourie 44-2-1 x2
Finnegan 23-2-1
Quarry 35-0-0
Rondon the other reigning champ.
Carroll 23-3-0
Tessman31-1-0
Hank
Depaula.
Foster floored and ko'd the very durable Finnegan with a right hand, he had two fisted power and a great jab with which he cut Ali'.
Tiger fought for another 2 years after the Foster fight winning his next 3 against Depaula,Kendall and Benvenuti,his only loss was to Griffith.
Tiger was 37 when he fought Foster in1968 and he wasn't sick and he did not die until December 1971 3 years later.
Tiger was five feet 8 inches tall.
Want to compare his size to that of Welterweight Ted Kid Lewis when he fought 175lbs Carpentier?

DIGRESSION: I was amazed how Levinsky played those no decision "defenses" for so long. I might be wrong but I think in the end he didn't win a single one of those fights NWS decision wise either. And when he finally did fight a full defense he lost. You could argue he never won a legit defense of his title.

I should have looked this up before posting. Might be incorrect. But boy I am certain he manipulated the system well. Not good for his legacy but probably OK for his bank account.

[them_apples]

lets not forget Foster is a bit overrated too, at least by the books. He's tall and Rangy with a great jab and good power, but really just a stalker who beat on lesser guys. It's not to say he couldn't, just saying he hasn't. Foster wants his opponents to sit still. I don't see Carpentier winning, but I see his movement frustrating Foster.

[them_apples]

You are entitled to your opinion,but please answer me this.

Which light heavies did Carpentier beat.? Levinsky who hid behind the no dec rule for years.Who else? Carpentier lost his title to one of the worst champions ever Battling Siki.
Carpentier weighed 168lbs the morning of the Dempsey fight ,but his weight was given as176lbs.Source Georges Carpentier. Dempsey weighed 188lbs =20lbs difference Dempsey was six feet one Carpentier 5 feet eleven=2 inches difference. Carpentier was just 27 years old when he fought Dempsey ie in his prime. The British heavies in that era were dire .

Bob Foster had a much better llhvy resume than Carpentier its not even debateable.

Fourie 44-2-1 x2
Finnegan 23-2-1
Quarry 35-0-0
Rondon the other reigning champ.
Carroll 23-3-0
Tessman31-1-0
Hank
Depaula.
Foster floored and ko'd the very durable Finnegan with a right hand, he had two fisted power and a great jab with which he cut Ali'.
Tiger fought for another 2 years after the Foster fight winning his next 3 against Depaula,Kendall and Benvenuti,his only loss was to Griffith.
Tiger was 37 when he fought Foster in1968 and he wasn't sick and he did not die until December 1971 3 years later.
Tiger was five feet 8 inches tall.
Want to compare his size to that of Welterweight Ted Kid Lewis when he fought 175lbs Carpentier?

I wouldn't call fosters resume anything special.
for example Mike quarry has protected vibes about his 35-0. Nobody knows who he was outside of his brother and getting stopped by Foster, who they didn't think he was ready for. At 35-0 and they didn't think he was ready, he was protected lol.

[Willie Pep 229]

I wouldn't call fosters resume anything special.
for example Mike quarry has protected vibes about his 35-0. Nobody knows who he was outside of his brother and getting stopped by Foster, who they didn't think he was ready for. At 35-0 and they didn't think he was ready, he was protected lol.

No opinion regarding your debate but if a guy "isn't ready" at 35-0 he will never be ready.

[Ivich]

I wouldn't call fosters resume anything special.
for example Mike quarry has protected vibes about his 35-0. Nobody knows who he was outside of his brother and getting stopped by Foster, who they didn't think he was ready for. At 35-0 and they didn't think he was ready, he was protected lol.

Anything wrong with Fourie's,credentials,Finegan's,Rondon's?All of them were better than any Lhvy Carpentier beat.

[Ivich]

lets not forget Foster is a bit overrated too, at least by the books. He's tall and Rangy with a great jab and good power, but really just a stalker who beat on lesser guys. It's not to say he couldn't, just saying he hasn't. Foster wants his opponents to sit still. I don't see Carpentier winning, but I see his movement frustrating Foster.

Foster is top 4 at 175lbs for me, Carpentier isnt top 20, imo.
I'd pick the following to beat him
Fitz
Berlenbach
Delaney
Saad
Conteh
Mustafa
Spinks
Lewis
Conn
Loughran He did
Moore
Foster
Braxton
Hopkins
Dillon
Galindez
Hill
Kovalev
Stevenson
Rosenbloom
JonesJnr
Torres
Maxim
Pastrano
H Johnson
M Johnson
and non lhvy champs Langford,Charles,Tunney he did,Greb.

How many of Carpentier's fights have you seen to base your opinion on?

[mrbig1]

If Bob hits him the way, he hit Tiger or Quarry. Your boy is done. Foster KO before the 5th.

[Willie Pep 229]

If Bob hits him the way, he hit Tiger or Quarry. Your boy is done. Foster KO before the 5th.

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