Who was the best fighter Roy Jones beat?

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  • JAB5239
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    #101
    That's cute. Your own personal collection? Funny you have readily available links to things like this but not a lawsuit between Hopkins and Dibella for anything other than libel.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #102
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      Who was the best fighter he beat, though?
      - - Already on record as saying Two Ton- p4p #1, prime, undefeated, and TUE boosted.

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      • them_apples
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        #103
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        Yes that is exactly what I’m telling you.

        Toney killed himself to make weight every single fight he had from 160 to 175.

        What is the difference between any of those fights and the one he had with Roy Jones other than Roy Jones being on another level as a fighter?
        well the lower the weight the more drained he was. Can anyone imagine toney making 160? It's hard to believe he was there in the first place.

        I'm not picking toney to win, but he def had better versions of himself on different nights. Much like Duran did. You are deliberately being biased. I would have loved to have seen toney that fought Nunn vs Jones. Toney was going for a title that night, he was in shape.

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          #104
          - - I'd say Montell Griffin who holds 2 wins over Toney is also better than Poppy as was Virgil Hill. Maybe McCallum too. Then Poppy.

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            #105
            Originally posted by them_apples

            well the lower the weight the more drained he was. Can anyone imagine toney making 160? It's hard to believe he was there in the first place.

            I'm not picking toney to win, but he def had better versions of himself on different nights. Much like Duran did. You are deliberately being biased. I would have loved to have seen toney that fought Nunn vs Jones. Toney was going for a title that night, he was in shape.
            - - Looked like warmed over shyte against the coked out Nunn, but he put Nunn through his paces such he wore out enough to be KOed.

            He was coming at Roy all night, in shape. Give it up. He didn't win a single minute of that fight.

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              #106
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - Looked like warmed over shyte against the coked out Nunn, but he put Nunn through his paces such he wore out enough to be KOed.

              He was coming at Roy all night, in shape. Give it up. He didn't win a single minute of that fight.
              Two guys who preferred to counter. It was a fight of quick exchanges frollowed by disconnects. I never looked but I suspect little clinching. End result athleticism carried the day.

              If they had met again when older and BOTH slower I think Toney by decision. I think in the end he was actually the better boxer/fighter.

              Their styles didn't match up well (for a great fight to break out) and they spent more time looking for opportunities than capitalizing on them. But I think your right I think Jones won every minute --- each (limited; careful) exchange went Jones' way. Never seemed to be a time when Toney got the best of an exchange.

              One of those fights that needed to go 45 rounds if we're going to actually know who was the better man. But they stopped doing that.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #107
                Originally posted by them_apples

                well the lower the weight the more drained he was. Can anyone imagine toney making 160? It's hard to believe he was there in the first place.

                I'm not picking toney to win, but he def had better versions of himself on different nights. Much like Duran did. You are deliberately being biased. I would have loved to have seen toney that fought Nunn vs Jones. Toney was going for a title that night, he was in shape.
                You just said “the lower the weight the more drained he was” and then used his fight with Micheal Nunn as an example….Which was his lowest weight

                This is the issue with you internet Toney fans, you live in a total fantasy world.

                The the lower the weight the more drained he was you say, when his 3 best wins on paper were at 160 lbs…Explain that genius.

                Also, Toney looked like garbage against Nunn. He was dominated for the large majority of the fight. Only because he pulled out the KO out of no where does he become “not drained” or somehow a different fighter. Had it gone to the decision and be lost wide on the card, all of you in fantasy land would deem him “drained.”

                There is literally not a single difference between Toney that fought Nunn and Toney that fought Roy Jones. Other than he had to cut LESS weight to fight Jones.




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                  #108
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  You just said “the lower the weight the more drained he was” and then used his fight with Micheal Nunn as an example….Which was his lowest weight

                  This is the issue with you internet Toney fans, you live in a total fantasy world.

                  The the lower the weight the more drained he was you say, when his 3 best wins on paper were at 160 lbs…Explain that genius.

                  Also, Toney looked like garbage against Nunn. He was dominated for the large majority of the fight. Only because he pulled out the KO out of no where does he become “not drained” or somehow a different fighter. Had it gone to the decision and be lost wide on the card, all of you in fantasy land would deem him “drained.”

                  There is literally not a single difference between Toney that fought Nunn and Toney that fought Roy Jones. Other than he had to cut LESS weight to fight Jones.



                  Whether it was from no where, or not, Nunn ended up on his back and James was the new champion.

                  Deal with it Hamza,................Rockin'

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Rockin'

                    Whether it was from no where, or not, Nunn ended up on his back and James was the new champion.

                    Deal with it Hamza,................Rockin'
                    Ok. And? I never disputed that.

                    Doesn’t change the fact that it he looked terrible in that fight.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      Ok. And? I never disputed that.

                      Doesn’t change the fact that it he looked terrible in that fight.

                      I know that he had some trouble in his early title reign but he just became amazing.

                      Was he the best ever? Not in my opinion.

                      Why can't you just except that James Toney was an exceptional fighter.


                      ................Rockin'
                      Last edited by Rockin'; 10-07-2022, 05:49 PM.

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