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Did Mike Tyson duck Lennox Lewis and George Foreman 1989-1992 ?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    Agree with everything but the last point. I don't see a Bowe title timeline where Bowe is suspose to defend against Lewis.

    Bowe after beating Holyfield for the title gets an easy one agsinst Dokes (which is fair, even traditional) then he is suppose to take on Mercer but Mercer self-distructs agsinst Ferguson (and as I have said before it would have been wrong not to let Jesse have the next shot) and then Bowe loses the title to Holyfield.

    I know everyone points to him trashing the WBC belt and argues that act was solely motivated to duck Lewis. But come on, anyone who knows the first thing about the fight game knows there can be plenty of reasons to get Sulaiman (sp) and the WBC out of your career.

    At the same time Lewis loses to McCall and then struggles with Mercer, and doesn't rematch McCall until Bowe is out of the title.

    Maybe if Bowe gets by Holyfield in the Fan Man fight and then doesn't pick up a Lewis challenge we might have cause to call it a duck.

    But during Bowe's title timeline none of his fights are wrong, and Lewis during that period isn't correctly positioned that he should be called an absolute.

    Bowe is titled holder for only a short time.

    I think too much guilt is hoisted on Bowe for trashing the WBC belt. There could realistically be many reasons ($$$) other than ducking Lewis for getting rid of the WBC (if you don't need them.)

    So I argue, at what point in the Bowe title timeline should that fight have occurred?

    I repeat my agreement from above - I believe there are very few actual ducks motivated by fear of an opponent. As you said, if they are the kind of men who rise to the top of the game they're not running scared from opponents.
    I was kidding. Lol.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

      I was kidding. Lol.
      Damn . . .

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      • #23
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        Whatever you say sunshine. I'll post a dozen links right now and none will be dated after June 2nd 1989. You go ahead post ONE single link that says this proposed fight was signed before that time. Go ahead now, we'll wait.
        - - Already stated they straight into a Gentlemen's agreement with the particulars being drawn up since the purse was more secure than any purse in history.

        Go for it Stormy. Let's see what you can Daniels ups!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Already stated they straight into a Gentlemen's agreement with the particulars being drawn up since the purse was more secure than any purse in history.

          Go for it Stormy. Let's see what you can Daniels ups!
          No, you backtracked after making up a story of a signed contract. Now you're saying they had a Gentlemen's agreement. Do you have any proof of this? I don't suppose you were there when Tyson and George shook hands and said "OK, let's do this. We'll have the lawyers hash out the details and the fight is a go" were you? Nah, I didn't think so!

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          • #25
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            I didn't think so!

            - - U never did think much. U hitched to more grrlish emotions.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - U never did think much. U hitched to more grrlish emotions.
              Lol.....sure, whatever you say!! I notice you still havent provided anything. Same old same old from you. Tell a lie, backtrack, and in the end avoid showing ANY proof.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                Lol.....sure, whatever you say!! I notice you still havent provided anything. Same old same old from you. Tell a lie, backtrack, and in the end avoid showing ANY proof.
                - - I'm the guy who alerted U igno to the proposed Chinese fight of Tyson vs Foreman...yer welcome and

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - I'm the guy who alerted U igno to the proposed Chinese fight of Tyson vs Foreman...yer welcome and
                  Lmao.......whatever you say Corky. In my 26 years on various forums this has come up many times. But hey, whatever makes you feel important.

                  I'm glad we're making some progress though. You've gone from the fight was signed, to it was a Gentlemen's agreement and now it was proposed. Dont you feel special?!!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    Lmao.......whatever you say Corky. In my 26 years on various forums this has come up many times. But hey, whatever makes you feel important.

                    I'm glad we're making some progress though. You've gone from the fight was signed, to it was a Gentlemen's agreement and now it was proposed. Dont you feel special?!!
                    - - No it wasn't and most certainly never on ye aulde AOL forum that U igno was con****uously absent on.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - Yeah, should've been 25 mil, so is that the best U can do?

                      Your links were post Tiananmen when the fight was no longer viable, but promoters were trying anyway.

                      Camps had a Gentlemen's agreement, a legal contract in a court of law if proven. They were drawing up the paper contract when fight was canceled.

                      National Sporting Club of England had a Gentleman's agreement with JJohnson that he broke. The agreement was only legal within the English territorial sphere. Once he fled to the the US, it was no more than a defunct agreement.

                      Count thee how many x U was born yesterday today.
                      This idiot can’t remember which lie he told last.

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