A key point that proves oldschool fighters were tougher and better chinned

[Willie Pep 229]

- - I would hope you would never want boxing to be at the HS 'rasslin' level.

Weighin's have always been egalitarian in design no matter the same day, or day before.

You think that allowing McClellan a day-before weight-in was egalitarian when he fought Jackson? A light LHW cutting down to MW to take on a Jr. Mw moving up to MW?

Maybe with a ringside weight-in that pointless fight doesn't happen.

Just because the word 'High School' is in the phrase does not mean the weight protocol is amateurish. In fact one might (I say might) conclude that the high school weight protocol was designed to protect the kids, thus would be well applied to protecting fighters.

[dreamroom]

We can all think of contemporary fighters with good chins, so we certainly know a good chin is an attribute that differs among fighters as individuals just like height does.

in the oldschool days you were expected to fight, and this lasted all the way up until at least the 90s, although Ali popularized the “winning with style, rather than beating” which eventually turned boxing into what we have today, boxers quitting or losing without a mark on their faces.

So this brings me to my point, to he a high level boxer in the oldschool days, you HAD to have a good chin. The sport was physical you weren’t gonna run your way to a “decision”. The petronelli brothers said once they found out a fighter, no matter how talented - had a glass jaw, they would tell him to hang it up.

so its pretty safe to say anyone at the top had already proven an iron beard or they wouldn’t have been there. Likewise everyone LOOKED iron chinned as well, even tall lanky guys like Charles or Foster still had sturdy heads, not even in line with their builds.
as far as the tapes go it seems as though they are better chinned as well. Add to this all the fights are very physical so they are much more used to getting hit.

so when making predictions its safe to say most of them are coming in with iron chins, even the ones with “lesser chins” of the day.

edit: so the key point I am clarifying here is, iron chinned people were involved in boxing. Glass jaws got out fast. The sport at the top was filled with iron beards. Having an iron chin was generally a good thing to have when you fought twice a month.

What do you consider a good chin? In my opinion, as long as you don't have a glass jaw, If you have a good defense, and can land good clean punches, you have a good shot in the fight game.

[QueensburyRules]

You think that allowing McClellan a day-before weight-in was egalitarian when he fought Jackson? A light LHW cutting down to MW to take on a Jr. Mw moving up to MW?

Maybe with a ringside weight-in that pointless fight doesn't happen.

Just because the word 'High School' is in the phrase does not mean the weight protocol is amateurish. In fact one might (I say might) conclude that the high school weight protocol was designed to protect the kids, thus would be well applied to protecting fighters.

- - Never knew of any HS coaches who protected kids.

Point being weight classes and weigh ins are egalitarian in design as long as rules are adhered to. The list of weighins boxing fudged in the pros is legendary, a completely different subject.

[Ascended]

A legend when they were sane,kept it real,couldn't handle the opposition going agiasnt their truth

became sellout, turned crazy to fit in and not be called names for keeping it real,I never will sell out and say lies that's not even on video,or will I say odd stuff just to not be trolled by lunatics, the ascended one is now and forever truth Attached Files

[them_apples]

A legend when they were sane,kept it real,couldn't handle the opposition going agiasnt their truth

became sellout, turned crazy to fit in and not be called names for keeping it real,I never will sell out and say lies that's not even on video,or will I say odd stuff just to not be trolled by lunatics, the ascended one is now and forever truth Attached Files

Can someone ban this fool?

[them_apples]

We can all think of contemporary fighters with good chins, so we certainly know a good chin is an attribute that differs among fighters as individuals just like height does.

in the oldschool days you were expected to fight, and this lasted all the way up until at least the 90s, although Ali popularized the “winning with style, rather than beating” which eventually turned boxing into what we have today, boxers quitting or losing without a mark on their faces.

So this brings me to my point, to he a high level boxer in the oldschool days, you HAD to have a good chin. The sport was physical you weren’t gonna run your way to a “decision”. The petronelli brothers said once they found out a fighter, no matter how talented - had a glass jaw, they would tell him to hang it up.

so its pretty safe to say anyone at the top had already proven an iron beard or they wouldn’t have been there. Likewise everyone LOOKED iron chinned as well, even tall lanky guys like Charles or Foster still had sturdy heads, not even in line with their builds.
as far as the tapes go it seems as though they are better chinned as well. Add to this all the fights are very physical so they are much more used to getting hit.

so when making predictions its safe to say most of them are coming in with iron chins, even the ones with “lesser chins” of the day.

edit: so the key point I am clarifying here is, iron chinned people were involved in boxing. Glass jaws got out fast. The sport at the top was filled with iron beards. Having an iron chin was generally a good thing to have when you fought twice a month.

I miss those days when I didn’t have artifacts in my posts lol