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  • #41
    Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post

    It is almost unknown today but the first time this fight was broadcast on prime time TV was several weeks after it occurred. A panel of experts that included former great champions such as Pep, trainers and writers scored the fight round after round. At the end of the fight all the scores were compiled to reveal the winner… A DRAW.

    Mercante rated as one if boxing greatest refs stated this fight was the most difficult to score of any bout he was ever involved.
    Son, I don't give a shìt what the experts said. The experts were full of shìt, too, and looking for any excuse to score a round for Clay.

    People act like they were seeing the real Clay during some sub par performances. By that time he was nothing but a man who allowed himself to become a punching bags for opponents until they wore themselves out on his great chin and durable body. There were no such performances before the draft layoff.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

      P.S. Tallest dwarf. Cute!
      - - Cue in Shortest Giant, and now we gots an all time great fight for the ages beyond ours.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - - Cue in Shortest Giant, and now we gots an all time great fight for the ages beyond ours.
        Burns v. Valuev, charter members of the bottom half group. Go Tommy!
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        • #44
          Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

          Burns v. Valuev, charter members of the bottom half group. Go Tommy!
          Burns might win this one!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
            Is it his victory over Wilder or his victory over Widler tht makes him the best ever?

            Yeah and we don't even know if Wilder is any good. The best win on his resume was that 40 year old cuban guy, and lets been real he was waxing Wilder for a few rounds. The rest of Wilders resume are literaly truck drives (actually, some of them were, and bouncers).

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            • #46
              Originally posted by them_apples View Post

              Yeah and we don't even know if Wilder is any good. The best win on his resume was that 40 year old cuban guy, and lets been real he was waxing Wilder for a few rounds. The rest of Wilders resume are literaly truck drives (actually, some of them were, and bouncers).
              It is true. The man who smashed the KO record for all divisions is on the fast track to obscurity. His competition was so bad his KO record deserves an asterisk.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post

                It is true. The man who smashed the KO record for all divisions is on the fast track to obscurity. His competition was so bad his KO record deserves an asterisk.
                whats hilarious is Fury only became this "master boxer" after he beat Wilder. Before that he was an imitation of a master boxing getting dropped by guys like Cunningham who weren't even punchers at cruiser. Wilder is so amateurish that it allowed fury to look like he can slip and ride shots and set guys up. I haven't seen him do it since.

                All fury and Wilder have for them is that confidence champs need. Wilder will always try to KO you, and Fury understands that the division is low caliber and he can outsmart them.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                  Yeah and we don't even know if Wilder is any good. The best win on his resume was that 40 year old cuban guy, and lets been real he was waxing Wilder for a few rounds. The rest of Wilders resume are literaly truck drives (actually, some of them were, and bouncers).
                  Honestly though, would you bet your life on any of those statements? Of all the billions of people to have roamed the earth over the last six decades, who but Patterson, Folley, Machen, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Williams, Quarry, Lyle, Ellis, Norton, Bugner, Shavers, Holmes, Withersoon, Stevenson, Cooney, Dokes, Weaver, Mike Spinks, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Bowe, Golota, Moorer, Tua, Lewis, McCall, Rahmann, Ibeabuchi, Byrd, Valuev, V. & W. Klitschko, Joshua and Fury would have had a ghost of a chance at besting Deontay Wilder under the only rules that historically matter? I don't bet on a dozen of them doing it. And Fury only 2 out of 3, evidently.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                    whats hilarious is Fury only became this "master boxer" after he beat Wilder. Before that he was an imitation of a master boxing getting dropped by guys like Cunningham who weren't even punchers at cruiser. Wilder is so amateurish that it allowed fury to look like he can slip and ride shots and set guys up. I haven't seen him do it since.

                    All fury and Wilder have for them is that confidence champs need. Wilder will always try to KO you, and Fury understands that the division is low caliber and he can outsmart them.
                    People are going nuts on Fury. Even Bilbo slipped up for a moment. It is common knowledge that Vlad was merely a scrub who used his height and reach well. Queensbree touts him. That tells a man all he needs to know right there, by buggery.

                    I have Vlad in the top half of the heavyweights, but just barely.
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                      Honestly though, would you bet your life on any of those statements? Of all the billions of people to have roamed the earth over the last six decades, who but Patterson, Folley, Machen, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Williams, Quarry, Lyle, Ellis, Norton, Bugner, Shavers, Holmes, Withersoon, Stevenson, Cooney, Dokes, Weaver, Mike Spinks, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Bowe, Golota, Moorer, Tua, Lewis, McCall, Rahmann, Ibeabuchi, Byrd, Valuev, V. & W. Klitschko, Joshua and Fury would have had a ghost of a chance at besting Deontay Wilder under the only rules that historically matter? I don't bet on a dozen of them doing it. And Fury only 2 out of 3, evidently.
                      well I would never bet my life on any statement involving my opinion on history. I already made a post about how I think about our humanoid predictions. It's my prediction, as in the accuracy of it I can't say - nobody can.

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