The Bottom Half of Heavyweight Champions' List

[Willow The Wisp]

well I would never bet my life on any statement involving my opinion on history. I already made a post about how I think about our humanoid predictions. It's my prediction, as in the accuracy of it I can't say - nobody can.

That seems fair.

[DeeMoney]

Here's an interesting bit of trivia.

The heavyweight champion has been a title that has existed in its current iteration for well over 100 years, going back to Sullivan in the 1880s. Since then there have been 81 different fighters to lay claim to the title at one time or another. Now obviously, since the multi belt era began, we have had far more recent fighters become a heavyweight champ than before, but to what extent may surprise you.

If you listed out all the individual heavyweight champions from the past 130 years in chronological order, by when they first gained the title, who would be that middle champ? In other words who was the 41st man to win the heavyweight title, with 40 coming before and 40 coming after?

The answer: Mike Tyson! There have literally been as many heavyweight champs since Tyson won it in 1986 then there were in the 100 years before.

[Willow The Wisp]

Here's an interesting bit of trivia.

The heavyweight champion has been a title that has existed in its current iteration for well over 100 years, going back to Sullivan in the 1880s. Since then there have been 81 different fighters to lay claim to the title at one time or another. Now obviously, since the multi belt era began, we have had far more recent fighters become a heavyweight champ than before, but to what extent may surprise you.

If you listed out all the individual heavyweight champions from the past 130 years in chronological order, by when they first gained the title, who would be that middle champ? In other words who was the 41st man to win the heavyweight title, with 40 coming before and 40 coming after?

The answer: Mike Tyson! There have literally been as many heavyweight champs since Tyson won it in 1986 then there were in the 100 years before.

Well, no. There have been only 10 Heavyweight (Boxing) Champions of the World since Mike Tyson, including Tyson himself. These are Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, Briggs, Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko and Tyson Fury - Just 10. All of the others are correctly referred to as "Title Claimants" by historians. They were not holders of the one, single title of World's Heavyweight Champion, a term applied to boxing rules fighting, (Though misappropriated by Pro Wrestling, Karate, Judo, MMA, Kickboxing, Purring, Eye Gouging, Jello wrestling, etc., from time to time across history). About a quarter of the contenders who visit into the top 10 get a turn wearing one of those funny looking "Sanctioning Body" belts. Their purpose (those belts and the miscreants who sell them to promoters) is to aid in the promotion of fights between contenders, rather unscrupulously; and nothing more. A better management of the sport might start by excluding any non-G-7 nation from hosting a "Boxing Sanctioning Body", as a more effective enforcement of law is presumed (if not realized) in those nations (IBF founder went to Jail!). In life my friend, don't allow just any old body to convince you of things that don't really exist. I mean to say; it was big fun at Woodstock, but it's a slippery slope.

[DeeMoney]

Well, no. There have been only 10 Heavyweight (Boxing) Champions of the World since Mike Tyson, including Tyson himself. These are Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, Briggs, Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko and Tyson Fury - Just 10. All of the others are correctly referred to as "Title Claimants" by historians. They were not holders of the one, single title of World's Heavyweight Champion, a term applied to boxing rules fighting, (Though misappropriated by Pro Wrestling, Karate, Judo, MMA, Kickboxing, Purring, Eye Gouging, Jello wrestling, etc., from time to time across history). About a quarter of the contenders who visit into the top 10 get a turn wearing one of those funny looking "Sanctioning Body" belts. Their purpose (those belts and the miscreants who sell them to promoters) is to aid in the promotion of fights between contenders, rather unscrupulously; and nothing more. A better management of the sport might start by excluding any non-G-7 nation from hosting a "Boxing Sanctioning Body", as a more effective enforcement of law is presumed (if not realized) in those nations (IBF founder went to Jail!). In life my friend, don't allow just any old body to convince you of things that don't really exist. I mean to say; it was big fun at Woodstock, but it's a slippery slope.

Okay I get what you are writing, just as I am sure you got what I was writing- and doing so along the parameters implied by the original post of this thread. And I think you get the gist of what I was saying: there have been far too many 'Title Holders', 'Champions', whatever you want to call it, over the past 35 years

[them_apples]

Here's an interesting bit of trivia.

The heavyweight champion has been a title that has existed in its current iteration for well over 100 years, going back to Sullivan in the 1880s. Since then there have been 81 different fighters to lay claim to the title at one time or another. Now obviously, since the multi belt era began, we have had far more recent fighters become a heavyweight champ than before, but to what extent may surprise you.

If you listed out all the individual heavyweight champions from the past 130 years in chronological order, by when they first gained the title, who would be that middle champ? In other words who was the 41st man to win the heavyweight title, with 40 coming before and 40 coming after?

The answer: Mike Tyson! There have literally been as many heavyweight champs since Tyson won it in 1986 then there were in the 100 years before.

wow just puts into perspective how little it means to win one belt now. I figure the ranks were more swelled in the old days because of boxings popularity and lack of jobs (also uncounted for clubs across america and europe) but the population has increased drastically to make up for it. Most countries are pretty soft now though, no more scoping of poor street kids who know nothing else but violence. I was watching some old tapes on 70’s and 80’s street gangs, times have really changed

[mrbig1]

I would have Dokes and Page on that list.

[Willow The Wisp]

In the old days they'd use regional titles, most of which were valid claims, instead of cheapening the title that literally hundreds of people have literally died trying to win. Being West-Midlands champion or California champion or New England champion or Danish champion....these titles actually meant something and were used to create importance almost like city titles are used in team sport leagues. We have seen the sport nothing but hurt allowing the proliferation of phoney "world" championships. As we all well know without my having said so.

[The Old LefHook]

In the old days they'd use regional titles, most of which were valid claims, instead of cheapening the title that literally hundreds of people have literally died trying to win. Being West-Midlands champion or California champion or New England champion or Danish champion....these titles actually meant something and were used to create importance almost like city titles are used in team sport leagues. We have seen the sport nothing but hurt allowing the proliferation of phoney "world" championships. As we all well know without my having said so.

The world championship of Missouri.

[QueensburyRules]

Honestly though, would you bet your life on any of those statements? Of all the billions of people to have roamed the earth over the last six decades, who but Patterson, Folley, Machen, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Williams, Quarry, Lyle, Ellis, Norton, Bugner, Shavers, Holmes, Withersoon, Stevenson, Cooney, Dokes, Weaver, Mike Spinks, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Bowe, Golota, Moorer, Tua, Lewis, McCall, Rahmann, Ibeabuchi, Byrd, Valuev, V. & W. Klitschko, Joshua and Fury would have had a ghost of a chance at besting Deontay Wilder under the only rules that historically matter? I don't bet on a dozen of them doing it. And Fury only 2 out of 3, evidently.

- - 50 yr old Luis with blood pressure meds needed to pass the boxing physical had Wildy going under til the bell rang. It was bad enough the the ref delayed the start of the next round by some 30 sec that gave him time to recover.

Frenchman on short notice, Johann Duhaupas, had his eye 100% shut necessitating a quick stoppage on Johann after a few Wildy punches landed.

Sir 'enery vs Clay Matters.

[QueensburyRules]

Honestly though, would you bet your life on any of those statements? Of all the billions of people to have roamed the earth over the last six decades, who but Patterson, Folley, Machen, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Williams, Quarry, Lyle, Ellis, Norton, Bugner, Shavers, Holmes, Withersoon, Stevenson, Cooney, Dokes, Weaver, Mike Spinks, Tyson, Holyfield, Bruno, Bowe, Golota, Moorer, Tua, Lewis, McCall, Rahmann, Ibeabuchi, Byrd, Valuev, V. & W. Klitschko, Joshua and Fury would have had a ghost of a chance at besting Deontay Wilder under the only that historically matter? I don't bet on a dozen of them doing it. And Fury only 2 out of 3, evidently.

- - To further expand those thoughts with 400 lb Dustin Nichols, to wit-

Dustin Nichols

• Fight Video

Notes

• Deontay Wilder 10-0 (10 KOs) vs. Dustin Nichols 4-2 (4 KOs)
• Among those in attendance was former world champion Roy Jones Jr.
• Wilder appeared to be knocked down by a right hand in the opening minute of the fight, but the referee ruled it a slip.

Bout Summary


Referee, Keith Hughes, waved an end to the bout prior to the beginning of the 2nd Round due to a cut that had opened over Nichols' right eye. Early in the round, Wilder opened the cut with a combination of left jabs and hooks that set up his right-hand calling card. The blood trickled down Nichols face, and then Wilder went to work on the big man's nose, which was bloodied in the second minute.[1]