The Bottom Half of Heavyweight Champions' List

[Willie Pep 229]

His victories over prime, 11 year unbeaten Champion Wlad, and his victories over Wilder who would knock Ali out quite easily. I know you love to overrated the old guys though. Nash out. Once he destroys Usyk, that will put away any doubts to the argument. Nash out.

How can an eleven year champion be 'prime' ?

Besides he squeaked by him.

And Wilder didn't KO Ali; a HOF poster like yourself should know making shlt up doesn't count.

Yes I would be quite impressed if he eventually dominates AJ or Usyk.

Until then, he's bottom half baby, bottom half.

If you see that other Nash Out, tell him for me.

[Ivich]

Why Tommy Burns?

He fights and beats everyone . . .

loses to JJ who has him totally outsized over 14 tough rounds . . .

then you all tell me over and over how great JJ was . . .

whom I'm sure will appear high on everyone's list . . .

????

Where's the consistency in the logic of Burns being at the bottom and JJ near the top.

Not necessarily to you Lefy but the whole forum.

P.S. Please don't call it the 'weakest era ever,' please don't!

14 tough rounds implies Burns was competitive against Johnson, he wasn't.

[QueensburyRules]

14 tough rounds implies Burns was competitive against Johnson, he wasn't.

- - Tough enough that JJ ducked the more lucrative rematch.

Film shows Burns the aggressor throwing punches and JJ the clincher in between some punching. The police were forced to stop the fight when JJ corner crawled under the ring and started squallin' for the fight to be stopped, and so it was to prevent crowd hysteria.

[Willie Pep 229]

14 tough rounds implies Burns was competitive against Johnson, he wasn't.

Who says - Nat Fleischer? - How do you know he wasn't competitive other than you heard it a thousand times?

[HOUDINI563]

His victories over prime, 11 year unbeaten Champion Wlad, and his victories over Wilder who would knock Ali out quite easily. I know you love to overrated the old guys though. Nash out. Once he destroys Usyk, that will put away any doubts to the argument. Nash out.

Huh? Wilder is the lowest skilled top ten heavyweight I’ve ever seen. Can’t slip a punch, can’t jab, a zero. Beating a very old Wlad by decision does nothing.

Yet the losers call Wilder a great fighter!

Ali would dominate Fury and Wilder on the same night.

[HOUDINI563]

Johnson dominated Burns. One sided fight but that’s no slam against Burns as he was fighting a ATG heavyweight.

[Nash out]

Huh? Wilder is the lowest skilled top ten heavyweight I’ve ever seen. Can’t slip a punch, can’t jab, a zero. Beating a very old Wlad by decision does nothing.

Yet the losers call Wilder a great fighter!

Ali would dominate Fury and Wilder on the same night.

Ali barely dominated journeyman. Also had to rely on about 10 gift decisions. Ali wasn't that good in the ring, but he was an entertaining talker, although, a very boring boxer. Ken Norton (B-level) schooled Ali, not once, not twice, but 3 times. Nash out.

[HOUDINI563]

Ali barely dominated journeyman. Also had to rely on about 10 gift decisions. Ali wasn't that good in the ring, but he was an entertaining talker, although, a very boring boxer. Ken Norton (B-level) schooled Ali, not once, not twice, but 3 times. Nash out.

You have no idea of what you are writing about. Winning a close decision is not a “gift” decision. Ali is rated and has been rated for the past 45 years top two greatest heavyweight champion (predominately he is rated number 1). His very high level of opposition is a main reason he is rated this highly. No other heavyweight champion fought and beat such strong contenders.

Learn the sport and then get back to me. Until then your comments are infantile at best.

[Willie Pep 229]

Ali barely dominated journeyman. Also had to rely on about 10 gift decisions. Ali wasn't that good in the ring, but he was an entertaining talker, although, a very boring boxer. Ken Norton (B-level) schooled Ali, not once, not twice, but 3 times. Nash out.

Name ten.

I'll get you started Norton III; OK I just ran out of gift decision tell me the other nine.

[Nash out]

Name ten.

I'll get you started Norton III; OK I just ran out of gift decision tell me the other nine.

Maybe not 10, but he also had many underwhelming performances against average/poor opponents, and barely dominated anyone. C'mon Willie, just admit it, you have a Tyson Fury poster on your wall as the pride of your bedroom. Nash out.