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Holmes reign began the mess we have with boxing today. The boxing commissions were terribly splintered each, it seemed, to want to have as many champions as possible so they could milk for sanctioning $.
As per Fleischer in his book “50 years at Ringside” the REAL reason Jeffries retired was the rise of the great black heavyweights Johnson, Langford, Jeanette and McVey.
Dempsey took his title “on the road” following the heavyweight champions before him. They all fought exhibition, appeared in plays, vaudeville etc and for Dempsey this included the new media of motion pictures. Excluding Burns Dempseys level of ring activity in terms of championship bouts as champion was similar or better than those before him.
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Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View PostHolmes reign began the mess we have with boxing today. The boxing commissions were terribly splintered each, it seemed, to want to have as many champions as possible so they could milk for sanctioning $.
As per Fleischer in his book “50 years at Ringside” the REAL reason Jeffries retired was the rise of the great black heavyweights Johnson, Langford, Jeanette and McVey.
Dempsey took his title “on the road” following the heavyweight champions before him. They all fought exhibition, appeared in plays, vaudeville etc and for Dempsey this included the new media of motion pictures. Excluding Burns Dempseys level of ring activity in terms of championship bouts as champion was similar or better than those before him.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
You put REAL in all caps because you're just saying that Fleischer believed that is why Jeffries retired, or are you saying that you agree with Fleischer racist clap trap?
Fleischer used the phrase REAL REASON. I have no reason to believe he was wrong or lying. He knew that time period better than anyone today by a very long stretch.
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Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
Fleicher was no racist. Period. He actively pushed and pushed hard to allow black heavyweights to fight for the title.
Fleischer used the phrase REAL REASON. I have no reason to believe he was wrong or lying. He knew that time period better than anyone today by a very long stretch.
Who cares what one man says. You discredit a great champion like Jeffries based on the opinion of one old man who would say anything for attention. Shame on you.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
I am suggesting his racism is against white fighters.
Who cares what one man says. You discredit a great champion like Jeffries based on the opinion of one old man who would say anything for attention. Shame on you.
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