Wladimir Klitschko's "jab jab grab" in the firmament of all-time

[ShoulderRoll]

Where do you rank him and his style in the pantheon of heavyweight all-time greats?

[The Old LefHook]

He was an overrated galoot, to be succinct, a bigger John Ruiz, kayoed several times by nobodies; kayoed by oaf Joshua when all he had to do was put on a fight earlier to KO the limey oaf. Instead, the half-witted coward elected to play it safe as a girl after knocking down Joshua, and got his just comeuppance. He was an utter disgrace.

[QueensburyRules]

Where do you rank him and his style in the pantheon of heavyweight all-time greats?

- - With Ali jab-jab-run for the hills.

[Willow The Wisp]

No respect for fighters. From non-fighters. Meh.
Maybe a dozen humans of the 130 billion some odd who have walked the earth could have beaten him under the only weaponless conflict rules code that history decides matters. Maybe not quite a dozen. And since might makes right......

[GhostofDempsey]

He doesn’t even sniff my top 20 heavyweights all-time.

[ShoulderRoll]

No respect for fighters. From non-fighters. Meh.
Maybe a dozen humans of the 130 billion some odd who have walked the earth could have beaten him under the only weaponless conflict rules code that history decides matters. Maybe not quite a dozen. And since might makes right......

Maybe less than a dozen? So you rank him in the top 10 all-time?

[The Old LefHook]

Vlad was atrocious to watch, before and after Manny Steward taught him to fight tall. And he had the killer instinct of a giraffe, at best. One of those dozen guys in history who could beat him went by the name of Sanders. Another by Brewster.

He beat no immortal fighters, faded or prime, he beat no great fighters, faded or prime, His best win seems to be Chris Byrd, one of the finest pure boxers ever. Maybe you prefer Ray Mercer, a lazy fighter with an iron chin. That is round steak and flank steak, the rest are mere hamburger.

Vlad made millions of dollars and married a starlet he quickly divorced, or she him. The one thing that can be said of him was that he seemed consistently in shape. I never knew him to come in flabby or out of shape. But a great big muscular man with no killer instinct is persona non grata in the boxing world. The gay bar is down the street.

Fact: Klit had Joshua knocked out, and refused to go in for the kill. He was only a corporal of ring generalship, but most of his opponents were privates. He was more athlete than fighter.

[Willow The Wisp]

Maybe less than a dozen? So you rank him in the top 10 all-time?

Oh, I guess I may have rounded ol' Wlad up a little for effect, but the point is the unbridled disrespect. People who are less than great as NATURAL fighters actually get to know that fact pretty soon into their attempts to become fighters. Fighting tends to work that way. If you find this out, yet still love the combat urge, you very seldom place your hope in ascending the deep pool of talent that is Boxing, where the big money resides. Instead, you go small. If you know that other kids in school can beat you up; you go out for wrestling while they play more popular sports like basketball or go on dates with the pretty girls; leaving you alone to roll around with other dudes feeling better about yourself. Or, you join a Martial Arts school to learn pretend fighting with other nerds. That is the talent feed to Mixed Martial Arts. But guys who go into Boxing are a very different breed. An opposite breed, in fact. They are the alpha dogs who already know that they fight better than anyone else in school; and they want to cash in on that rare and innate talent they possess. They have discovered that they are worthy of bigger rewards, and train their talents for THAT. And cash in big is what they do; on every continent on earth.
So..........Got that?
Now, If Mr. Wladimir Klitchko was as bad are many fans (not experts, and certainly not historians) here are suggesting he is; he would be in MMA, fighting in panties with a nut sack d****d over his face, one nut in each eye; getting paid cab fare to the arena, to entertain fans holding signs that read “Just Bleed!”.
He would not be one of the most famous athletes from continental Europe over the past 20 years and a leader (with his brother) of his country of some 41.51 million inhabitants owing to his fame as a fighter.

[ShoulderRoll]

Oh, I guess I may have rounded ol' Wlad up a little for effect, but the point is the unbridled disrespect. People who are less than great as NATURAL fighters actually get to know that fact pretty soon into their attempts to become fighters. Fighting tends to work that way. If you find this out, yet still love the combat urge, you very seldom place your hope in ascending the deep pool of talent that is Boxing, where the big money resides. Instead, you go small. If you know that other kids in school can beat you up; you go out for wrestling while they play more popular sports like basketball or go on dates with the pretty girls; leaving you alone to roll around with other dudes feeling better about yourself. Or, you join a Martial Arts school to learn pretend fighting with other nerds. That is the talent feed to Mixed Martial Arts. But guys who go into Boxing are a very different breed. An opposite breed, in fact. They are the alpha dogs who already know that they fight better than anyone else in school; and they want to cash in on that rare and innate talent they possess. They have discovered that they are worthy of bigger rewards, and train their talents for THAT. And cash in big is what they do; on every continent on earth.
So..........Got that?
Now, If Mr. Wladimir Klitchko was as bad are many fans (not experts, and certainly not historians) here are suggesting he is; he would be in MMA, fighting in panties with a nut sack d****d over his face, one nut in each eye; getting paid cab fare to the arena, to entertain fans holding signs that read “Just Bleed!”.
He would not be one of the most famous athletes from continental Europe over the past 20 years and a leader (with his brother) of his country of some 41.51 million inhabitants owing to his fame as a fighter.

Is this little rant due to my avatar? If so then maybe you should look at it a little more closely....

[Willow The Wisp]

Is this little rant due to my avatar? If so then maybe you should look at it a little more closely....

Lol, no, I didn't take any note of your avatar until just now. Yes they are certainly underpaid fighters. My post was not a rant. It was a corrective lesson aimed towards those who do not appear able to grasp the relative importance of Wladimir Klitschko and his accomplishments.