Joe Louis in the 50s

[uncle ben]

Say instead of being born in 1914 and turning pro in 1934, Louis is born in 1934 and turns pro in 1954. He develops at the same pace he did in the actual time-line. How do you see Louis career going. Does he hold the title for 12 years? Does he even become a champion?

[DeeMoney]

Just to clarify, its the exact same Louis we saw in the 30s-40s but in the 50s-60s? Same weight, same Blackburn trained style?

[markusmod]

Just to clarify, its the exact same Louis we saw in the 30s-40s but in the 50s-60s? Same weight, same Blackburn trained style?

Was thinking the same here.

[QueensburyRules]

Say instead of being born in 1914 and turning pro in 1934, Louis is born in 1934 and turns pro in 1954. He develops at the same pace he did in the actual time-line. How do you see Louis career going. Does he hold the title for 12 years? Does he even become a champion?

- - Wuz U being born in a diaper factory?

[uncle ben]

Just to clarify, its the exact same Louis we saw in the 30s-40s but in the 50s-60s? Same weight, same Blackburn trained style?

Yes. Louis the same as we saw him

[billeau2]

Say instead of being born in 1914 and turning pro in 1934, Louis is born in 1934 and turns pro in 1954. He develops at the same pace he did in the actual time-line. How do you see Louis career going. Does he hold the title for 12 years? Does he even become a champion?

Am I missing something if I say the following? Were basically talking about Louis getting past Marciano in Prime and eventually Liston. Patterson was a somewhat underated fighter but Louis catches him... At prime I could see him beating Marciano... probably a great rivalry between those two with both winning and losing a few times... I don't think Lous beats Liston.

[billeau2]

- - Wuz U being born in a diaper factory?

what grade U in? Wuz you home schooled by chimps? How do you take the short bus to school when U schooled by chimps?

[ShoulderRoll]

Blackburn-trained Louis would dominate that era just like he dominated the 30's-40's.

He would beat the crude, limited, overrated Marciano. I don't see Floyd Patterson or Ingemar Johansson standing up to his power punching. He was too technically sound for big, bad (but slow) Sonny Liston.

It's not until Cassius Clay that he would run into a bad style matchup in my opinion. And even then he might beat the young upstart if he catches him while green and inexperienced.

[uncle ben]

Blackburn-trained Louis would dominate that era just like he dominated the 30's-40's.

He would beat the crude, limited, overrated Marciano. I don't see Floyd Patterson or Ingemar Johansson standing up to his power punching. He was too technically sound for big, bad (but slow) Sonny Liston.

It's not until Cassius Clay that he would run into a bad style matchup in my opinion. And even then he might beat the young upstart if he catches him while green and inexperienced.

I think Marciano would give a prime Louis trouble IMO, but Louis prevails. But on this time-line, Rocky retired in 1955, so they may have missed one another. Louis would have defeated Patterson in 57 to become the champion. Although with a young Louis roaming around the HW division, D'Amato may have opted to keep Patterson at LHW.

In his inevitable clash with Sonny Liston, I agree that Louis would have stopped Liston in a war. Meanwhile, Patterson would be dominating the LHW scene and would probably eventually be lured to heavyweight by the promise of a big purse for a super fight with Louis (like Conn was in 1941). So Louis and Patterson would meet in 1961 or so with Louis defeating Patterson via KO.

If Louis met Cassius Clay prior to 64, he would have wrecked him. 64 or later is anyone's guess.

I think in the late 60s or early 70s, either Ali retires Louis in a rematch, he gets beaten by a young up and coming Joe Frazier or he pulls one last great win out of the bag and beats Ali or Frazier and announces his retirement.

[Nash out]

I'd like to have seen prime Joe Louis in the 70s face off against a prime Rocky Balboa. Nash out.