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  • Bundana
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rockin'

    But look at how few promoters are around the country/world. It's nothing like it was when I was fighting and it is nothing close to when the IBC ruled the sport. Where would these fighters all fight, the shows are few and far between today.............Rockin'
    What period are we talking about? When exactly were you active?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bundana

      What period are we talking about? When exactly were you active?
      I fought in the 80s and 90s. The IBC started up in 1949, I believe..................Rockin'

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        #23
        Originally posted by Rockin'

        I fought in the 80s and 90s. The IBC started up in 1949, I believe..................Rockin'

        You think today there are, worldwide, fewer promoters/fights/active pro boxers... compared to back then? And if so, do you have any numbers, that supports this?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Bundana


          You think today there are, worldwide, fewer promoters/fights/active pro boxers... compared to back then? And if so, do you have any numbers, that supports this?
          Boxing was MUCH more popular back when as compared to today. The advent of the television started the decline of promoters around the country. Actual fighters I would think would pick up with constant showings on the TV like they did in the 50's. Why pay $30-$100 for something that you could watch for free in the comfort of your recliner and house? The promoters decline, the fighters will decline. How can you make a living fighting if there is nowhere to fight? I don't have any stats, but this is my reasoning in a brown paper back.............Rockin'

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            #25
            For number of fights on any given day Boxrec is a conveint source. They list how many fight cards there were worldwide for everydsy of the year - the stats looked to be pretty complete for the 1930s through today..

            It would be interesting to compare decades but also to see if the advent of TV diminished the number of live cards in the mid 1950s.

            P.S. the IBC did start in 1949 when it conned Joe Louis into signing on all the top HW contenders. Once his prestige was no longer needed they bought him out. They, the IBC became the 'octopus' by 1952 and ruled TV boxing until they all went to prison 1959-1960.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
              For number of fights on any given day Boxrec is a conveint source. They list how many fight cards there were worldwide for everydsy of the year - the stats looked to be pretty complete for the 1930s through today..

              It would be interesting to compare decades but also to see if the advent of TV diminished the number of live cards in the mid 1950s.

              P.S. the IBC did start in 1949 when it conned Joe Louis into signing on all the top HW contenders. Once his prestige was no longer needed they bought him out. They, the IBC became the 'octopus' by 1952 and ruled TV boxing until they all went to prison 1959-1960.
              The IBC is a very interesting part in boxings history and it's very being is still felt in the boxing world. Not in the sport but rather amongst it's fans..........Rockin'
              Last edited by Rockin'; 08-04-2021, 11:39 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Rockin'

                Boxing was MUCH more popular back when as compared to today. The advent of the television started the decline of promoters around the country. Actual fighters I would think would pick up with constant showings on the TV like they did in the 50's. Why pay $30-$100 for something that you could watch for free in the comfort of your recliner and house? The promoters decline, the fighters will decline. How can you make a living fighting if there is nowhere to fight? I don't have any stats, but this is my reasoning in a brown paper back.............Rockin'

                This is the American way of looking at things!

                It's true, that boxing in the US experienced a huge slump following WW2. A slump from which it has yet to recover (and probably never will).

                However, while boxing became less and less popular in the US - the opposite has been the case in many other parts of the world. Just look what has happened in Eastern Europe after the fall of The Wall. Lots of top class fighters emerging from the former communist block over the past couple of decades. Many more countries (like in Africa and Asia) are also experiencing a surge of activity. Even a country like China, which used to frown on pro boxing, is now staging pro shows. As is India, by the way.

                So, looking at the big picture (worldwide), today there are far more fights, taking place in far more countries, than 30-40 years ago.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bundana


                  This is the American way of looking at things!

                  It's true, that boxing in the US experienced a huge slump following WW2. A slump from which it has yet to recover (and probably never will).

                  However, while boxing became less and less popular in the US - the opposite has been the case in many other parts of the world. Just look what has happened in Eastern Europe after the fall of The Wall. Lots of top class fighters emerging from the former communist block over the past couple of decades. Many more countries (like in Africa and Asia) are also experiencing a surge of activity. Even a country like China, which used to frown on pro boxing, is now staging pro shows. As is India, by the way.

                  So, looking at the big picture (worldwide), today there are far more fights, taking place in far more countries, than 30-40 years ago.
                  True dat. Europe has been coming on in the sport for some time now..............Rockin'

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Old LefHook
                    Come one, come all!

                    We don't need fewer divisions, we need more. There should be a division for every pound a man can make, and a league for every freak. You want champions, eh? Well, this will breed thoroughbreds galore. Open the sport up, ****** boys. There are men and ladies of a mere 4 stone who would love to give you a good thrashing, and some of 25 stone who will iron you out flat.

                    Another thing, do you really feel there are enough referees in the ring when there is only one? Why not give each man his own referee? Give me one good reason why not, or two mediocre reasons.
                    We need a system where everyone is a champ... Keep the beltmakers in business I say!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      We need a system where everyone is a champ... Keep the beltmakers in business I say!
                      It's called the WBA

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