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  • #11
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
    - -Can't help jibberjabberwonkywonky if he weren't around when Poppy melted after Lou signed for two lucrative fights, the Jones rematch and SuperJoe. The fact that he eventually fights them later and soils hisself has nothing to do with Dibella 2Mil civil judgement vs Poppy.
    Pushing the goal post back again I see. I unfortunately that isn't what you said.

    Poppy was so humiliated that when Lou Dibella signed for the rematch, poppy defaulted their contract and had to pay a $2 mil judgement.

    So know I will ask you to provide proof of you second claim since I have proven your first was another load of BS.

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    • #12
      8-4 Jones.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        I've been convinced for a very long time that Don King is one of the best boxing promoters in history, and the most genius and manipulative person the sport has ever known. If you haven't read it, get the book "Don King: his life and crimes" by Jack Newfield. King is like a real life super villain.
        Could not have said it better myself. All one has to do just look at when King was a numbers Runner in Cleveland. Puts Alexander the great to shame. Very smart, very evil...
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        • #14
          “When I beat Bernard Hopkins and won the IBF / The right was hurt beat him with the left / Ya'll Must've Forgot.”

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          • #15
            - -Luverly, jibjabberwonkywonky gibberish combined with untranslated Ubonics...only in BS history section!!!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
              - -Luverly, jibjabberwonkywonky gibberish combined with untranslated Ubonics...only in BS history section!!!
              In other words, you have no answers or proof. Same old same old with you. You tell lies, you get exposed. Must really suck to be you.

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              • #17
                - -Ain't noone ever gonna fix U ******...NOONE!!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                  - -Ain't noone ever gonna fix U ******...NOONE!!!
                  Ain't no one believing any of your lies. Back to the bottle for you fairy tale man!!
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                  • #19
                    If you read the other lawsuit Hopkins v. American Presents you find that Hopikins refused a Jones rematch twice, once directly (With Lewis Productions in '95) and then again in '98 indirectly with American Presents.

                    Hopkins' argument for refusing the first offer in '95 (Lewis Production) was motivated by the fact that Hopkins would only receive $500,000 of a proposed purse of 1.2 million (per Hopkins contract agreement with Lewis Productions.).

                    The second Jones offer for a rematch was made to America Presents directly ('98) and was for such a lower amount they did not even approach Hopkins with the offer, thus creatimg Hopkins second but indirect refusal to fight Jones.

                    The judgement in Hopkins v. America Presents went to Hopkins via a counter suit, he received lawyer fees of around 70K. But no punitive money.

                    WARNING I am not 100% sure I got this all correct.

                    Basically thought we find that Hopkins sued or was sued by three of his four promoters: Lewis Production; American Presents; and DiBella.

                    That leaves only Don King. What do you think are the chances I will find a Hopkins v. King civil suit if I go looking for one?

                    LOL

                    P.S. For the DiBella suit the jury found against Hopkins for 110K for compensatory damages and 500K punitive. But that was a libel suit not connected to a Jones rematch. ( At least not directly).
                    Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 04-17-2021, 04:42 AM.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
                      If you read the other lawsuit Hopkins v. American Presents you find that Hopikins refused a Jones rematch twice, once directly (With Lewis Productions in '95) and then again in '98 indirectly with American Presents.

                      Hopkins' argument for refusing the first offer in '95 (Lewis Production) was motivated by the fact that Hopkins would only receive $500,000 of a proposed purse of 1.2 million (per Hopkins contract agreement with Lewis Productions.).

                      The second Jones offer for a rematch was made to America Presents directly ('98) and was for such a lower amount they did not even approach Hopkins with the offer, thus creatimg Hopkins second but indirect refusal to fight Jones.

                      The judgement in Hopkins v. America Presents went to Hopkins via a counter suit, he received lawyer fees of around 70K. But no punitive money.

                      WARNING I am not 100% sure I got this all correct.

                      Basically thought we find that Hopkins sued or was sued by three of his four promoters: Lewis Production; American Presents; and DiBella.

                      That leaves only Don King. What do you think are the chances I will find a Hopkins v. King civil suit if I go looking for one?

                      LOL

                      P.S. For the DiBella suit the jury found against Hopkins for 110K for compensatory damages and 500K punitive. But that was a libel suit not connected to a Jones rematch. ( At least not directly).
                      Thanks for this info. Good research!!

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