Which of the great Heavyweights never got a gift decision?

[TheGreatA]

Uhese were the scorecards

judge: Bernie Friedkin 6-4 | judge: Al Reid 6-4 | judge: Tony Moret 8-2 (boxrec)


Tyson never got a gift decision, but he would probably of got one if the Douglas fight went the distance.

I agree it was not truly a robbery by any means (although it's the closest to a "gift" Tyson got which isn't much).

I do find it interesting that the bout would have been scored a draw had Tyson not knocked Tillis down in one of the rounds. He was probably winning that round up to that point.


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[The Iron Man]

I agree it was not truly a robbery by any means (although it's the closest to a "gift" Tyson got which isn't much).

I do find it interesting that the bout would have been scored a draw had Tyson not knocked Tillis down in one of the rounds. He was probably winning that round up to that point.

Yeh i agree, i would have given tyson that round regardless of the KD.

[Poet682006]

How I scored the fight got **** to do with bias FOR the fighter. At best I have a bias for the Philly styles. My kinds of fighters are Georgie Benton, Jimmy Young, Tim Witherspoon, Harold Johnson, the sweet technicians. I score fights of guys not from Philly in similar ways. Like I had Mayweather beating Castillo in the first fight, and I had James Toney beating Montell Griffin both times. The second Griffin fight was an absolute abomination.

Methinks the Lady doth protest too much

Poet

[Poet682006]

These were the scorecards

judge: Bernie Friedkin 6-4 | judge: Al Reid 6-4 | judge: Tony Moret 8-2 (boxrec)

Tyson never got a gift decision, but he would probably of got one if the Douglas fight went the distance.

So the Tillis fight was scored on the rounds system? Then the knockdown was irrelevent as it didn't factor into the scoring.

Poet

[TheGreatA]

So the Tillis fight was scored on the rounds system? Then the knockdown was irrevalent as it didn't factor into the scoring.

Poet

A knockdown wins a round even in round by round system. I believe Tillis was doing the better work in that round until being knocked down.

Two of the scorecards had the fight 6-4 and 6-4 in favour of Tyson.

[Poet682006]

A knockdown wins a round even in round by round system. I believe Tillis was doing the better work in that round until being knocked down.

Two of the scorecards had the fight 6-4 and 6-4 in favour of Tyson.

Okay, fair enough! I had Tyson edging that round without the knockdown which is why I didn't see it making a difference. So the real question is how the two judges that had the fight as 6-4 would have scored that round if no knockdown had occured. If they favored Tyson in that round then the scorecards stay the same.

Poet

[Dynamite Kid]

What i tend to do with KD's rounds is.............i score most of them 10/8 but if the guy who gets knocked down performs very well then i give it 10/9 but he must make a big effort to make it clear that despite getting dropped he still won the round, that is when i give a 10/9 round even with a KD.

[Poet682006]

What i tend to do with KD's rounds is.............i score most of them 10/8 but if the guy who gets knocked down performs very well then i give it 10/9 but he must make a big effort to make it clear that despite getting dropped he still won the round, that is when i give a 10/9 round even with a KD.

That's pretty much what I do, especially if it's a flash knockdown. Too bad too many incompetant judges just reflexively give a 10-8 whenever one occurs. Those are the same idiots that don't seem to realize you can score a round 10-8 WITHOUT a knockdown.

Poet

[Dynamite Kid]

That's pretty much what I do, especially if it's a flash knockdown. Too bad too many incompetant judges just reflexively give a 10-8 whenever one occurs. Those are the same idiots that don't seem to realize you can score a round 10-8 WITHOUT a knockdown.

Poet

Yeah true.

Harold Lederman

[The Iron Man]

What i tend to do with KD's rounds is.............i score most of them 10/8 but if the guy who gets knocked down performs very well then i give it 10/9 but he must make a big effort to make it clear that despite getting dropped he still won the round, that is when i give a 10/9 round even with a KD.

Yeh i do the exact same thing.

I has Tyson winning the round aswell even without the KD.