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What Heavyweights In Your Mind Defeat A Prime Joe Louis (Past Or Present)?
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Originally posted by Slimey Limey View PostI think Louis does better against a Shavers or a Leon Spinks, granted he does not get caught. Patterson vs Louis would be a swell fight I reckon, just like Archie Moore.
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I don't think Jeffries would do too well against Louis, I actually think his style is pretty much made for Louis.
He was not a traditional swarmer like Frazier and Marciano for example, he would rather wear down his opposition with size and strength much like Abe Simon and Buddy Baer would, although Jeffries was more well-schooled in his approach. He was not really a big knockout puncher either.
Louis would pick him apart with counter punches like Fitzsimmons did, except he wouldn't be worn out and stopped. Fitzsimmons really beat Jeffries into a pulp.
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99 or 02 fitzsimmons? though i dont know much about the 2 fights but 8 round ko in 02 looks like jeffries improved since the 11 round ko in 99 also being 167 and 172 might have given him the advange in countering compared to a 200 some odd pound louis who i dont think would have been able to miss as many punches with a chance to counter as fitz.
not really a knock out puncher? fastest heavy weight title defense in history 55 seconds?
jeffries even said himself he never hit a man as hard as he could for fear of killing him
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Originally posted by Ylem122 View Post99 or 02 fitzsimmons? though i dont know much about the 2 fights but 8 round ko in 02 looks like jeffries improved since the 11 round ko in 99 also being 167 and 172 might have given him the advange in countering compared to a 200 some odd pound louis who i dont think would have been able to miss as many punches with a chance to counter as fitz.
not really a knock out puncher? fastest heavy weight title defense in history 55 seconds?
jeffries even said himself he never hit a man as hard as he could for fear of killing him
He scored a first round knockout over Jack Finnegan, but Finnegan was probably the worst heavyweight title challenger of all time. It usually took him many rounds to get rid of his opposition. He hit Tom Sharkey with everything in the 45 rounds that they fought against each other and yet was never able to knock him out. Fitzsimmons on the other hand knocked out Sharkey in two rounds.
It was actually the second fight with an older, 39 year old Fitzsimmons in which he was beaten badly.
"Robert Fitzsimmons has forfeited his last claim upon the heavyweight championship of the world. He stood off James J. Jeffries for eight rounds, and before receiving his quietus had astonished the thousands of spectators by his brilliant work. As early as the second round Fitzsimmons had Jeffries bleeding profusely from mouth and nose. Again and again he landed on his bulky opponent, getting away in such a clever manner that he roused the big crowd to enthusiastic cheering. It seemed indeed that Jeffries could scarcely stand the pace. But the 8th round came and after a series of hot exchanges Fitzsimmons paused with his guard down and spoke to the champion. The latter's reply was two terrific blows that saved him the championship." -The Mansfield News
"If a non-spectator had seen Jeffries and Fitzsimmons two minutes after the fight Fitz would have been picked the winner. There was not a mark on him, while Jeffries face was bloody and beaten to a pulp. Only Jeffries' stamina and capacity for punishment saved him." -George Siler, noted referee and writer
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Originally posted by Slimey Limey View PostWalcott already beat a prime Joseph as well.
So nearly got something right then just snatched it away again.
Thats where you go wrong you get so carried away with this Louis hate you rant rather than make sensible posts.
Still guess thats why you abuse the privilage of being a **** I suppose.
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