Wladimir Klitschko

[Kid McCoy]

I'm struggling to think of one he fought, only ones that come to mind are Midenberger and Richard Dunn. But yes they gave him a boxing lesson no doubt about it.

Actually I'm sure Ali once cited Mildenberger as one of his trickier opponents. I believe it was the first time he'd ever faced a lefty. He won well enough in the end, but Mildenberger did cause him a few problems.

[GJC]

No I'm struggling to think of the quick savvy southpaws that Lewis and Liston struggled with as well. I guess a lot of fighters would struggle against these mythical quick savvy southpaws and I'm not saying Ali, Lewis and Liston wouldn't but names would be helpful?

[GJC]

Actually I'm sure Ali once cited Mildenberger as one of his trickier opponents. I believe it was the first time he'd ever faced a lefty. He won well enough in the end, but Mildenberger did cause him a few problems.

True, Mildenberger wasn't one of Ali's great fights. Think the only problems Dunn gave him was getting out of the way when Dunn kept going down.
One name doesn't point to a general weakness though.

[StarshipTrooper]

There haven't been too many southpaws at Heavyweight over the years. In fact, Moorer was the first to actually win a title.....not that he held it very long.

Poet

[Kid McCoy]

True, Mildenberger wasn't one of Ali's great fights. Think the only problems Dunn gave him was getting out of the way when Dunn kept going down.
One name doesn't point to a general weakness though.

I know he's most famous for being walloped around the ring by Ali (and even the ultra-cautious pair Joe Bugner and Jimmy Young KO'd him) but one curiosity in Richard Dunn's career is that he holds a win over Roy Williams. The same fearsome Roy Williams who causes Earnie Shavers and Larry Holmes to break out in a cold sweat whenever his name is mentioned. I've never seen the fight, but from what I've heard Williams just couldn't solve the southpaw puzzle and Dunn was the worthy winner. The quirks of boxing.

[Southpaw16BF]

I see a Liston Byrd fight being simialar to Byrd-Ike Ibeabuchi, Byrd may have speed over Sonny, but after a few rounds Liston starts landing power punchers, and traps Byrd in the corner while he lands with hard combination power punchers and it is goodnight for Byrd.......

I also feel Oscar Natalio Bonavena could use his strength and toughness to grind out a decision against Sultan Ibragimov, medicore Ray Ausin had alot of success using his strength and brute force to drop Sultan and manage a draw against him.

I feel Bonavena is better skilled than Austin, tougher, and most likely stronger, and Austin caused Sultan trouble with these tools and so could Bonavena. A rather close fight

And the Ali who beat Joe Frazier, no dout would have to much heart, strength and punch to hard for the decent Jameel McCline, I have no dout Frazier takes a KO Victory here...

I find it rather laughable how much LRR dislikes Ali........What's he saying is Wlad's resume of opponets fought could beat most of the 70's Heavyweight Era, which is considered to be one of the best Heavyweights Era's ever.

[GJC]

I know he's most famous for being walloped around the ring by Ali (and even the ultra-cautious pair Joe Bugner and Jimmy Young KO'd him) but one curiosity in Richard Dunn's career is that he holds a win over Roy Williams. The same fearsome Roy Williams who causes Earnie Shavers and Larry Holmes to break out in a cold sweat whenever his name is mentioned. I've never seen the fight, but from what I've heard Williams just couldn't solve the southpaw puzzle and Dunn was the worthy winner. The quirks of boxing.

I remember Roy Williams he got knocked out by Shavers just after he knocked down Shavers. Didn't remember Dunn beating him. Remember Bugner coming out of one of his many retirements and actually looking like a fighter for once against Dunn.

[GJC]

I find it rather laughable how much LRR dislikes Ali........What's he saying is Wlad's resume of opponets fought could beat most of the 70's Heavyweight Era, which is considered to be one of the best Heavyweights Era's ever.

Well I'll always listen to a point of view but I haven't seen anything to convince me either from Wladimir Klitschko or from our poster

[Kid McCoy]

I remember Roy Williams he got knocked out by Shavers just after he knocked down Shavers. Didn't remember Dunn beating him. Remember Bugner coming out of one of his many retirements and actually looking like a fighter for once against Dunn.

Bugner and Dunn disliked each other a lot (no idea why), which probably explains the rare show of aggression from Joe.

The Dunn-Williams fight took place in the UK in the mid-70s. Considering how highly regarded Williams was by Ali (who used him as a sparring partner), Holmes and Shavers, it's always been a result that's puzzled me.

[GJC]

Bugner and Dunn disliked each other a lot (no idea why), which probably explains the rare show of aggression from Joe.

The Dunn-Williams fight took place in the UK in the mid-70s. Considering how highly regarded Williams was by Ali (who used him as a sparring partner), Holmes and Shavers, it's always been a result that's puzzled me.

Dunn was his Kirkland Laing? Be a dull sport if it didn't have these results