Prime Tyson could have been the best ever??

[mickeyb]

Tyson in his so called prime never fought anyone half as good as Lewis, and Lewis in his prime never fought someone half as good as tyson in his prime.

therefore it's like comparing Ali v Dempsey, we'll never know but imo only two results possible, Tyson to ko Lewis like Rahman did or Lewis to beat Tyson like Douglas did. I think credit to both of them that if they did fight in prime ten times it wouldnt be one sided. My money would go on Lewis as history proved he focused more in big fights were as Tyson went into every fight the same if fully trained. Shame in never happened, Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis and Tyson could have been like Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Norton from the 70's.

[Frazier's 15th round]

Douglas KO10 Tyson

[Mike Tyson77]

Douglas KO10 Tyson

Tyson KO8 Douglas

[StarshipTrooper]

Tyson KO8 Douglas

Nope! That's Don King propaganda and sour g****s by the Tyson nuthugging crowd.

Poet

[Mike Tyson77]

Nope! That's Don King propaganda and sour g****s by the Tyson nuthugging crowd.

Poet

I always count to like 11 or 12 everytime I see that KD.

[StarshipTrooper]

I always count to like 11 or 12 everytime I see that KD.

So? You could have counted to 20 in Dempsey - Tunney. It doesn't matter when his ass hits the canvas, the count starts when the opposing fighter goes to a neutral corner. More to the point, Douglas was fully conscious and watching the referees count: He could have gotten up at anytime. Funny how Tyson is gracious in defeat but his nuthugging fans are the biggest sore losers on the planet.

Poet

[Mike Tyson77]

So? You could have counted to 20 in Dempsey - Tunney. It doesn't matter when his ass hits the canvas, the count starts when the opposing fighter goes to a neutral corner. More to the point, Douglas was fully conscious and watching the referees count: He could have gotten up at anytime. Funny how Tyson is gracious in defeat but his nuthugging fans are the biggest sore losers on the planet.

Poet

Dempsey beat Tunny in my book.

[Brassangel]

Even if the knockdown in the 8th round would have been recognized as a KO and Tyson wins, there would have been tons of criticism towards Mike about getting pounded every round and stealing a lazy win with one punch. It would have messed him up mentally, hearing that he's a sloth. Of course, that may have motivated him, but it may also have motivated Douglas to stay in that kind of shape for a rematch.

Also, Douglas was clearly watching the ref with the intent of getting up at 8. His eyes weren't glazed over, he didn't come out wobbly in the next round, and he took over right where he left off. Even if the official was wrong, the fighter is supposed to follow said ref's count, which Douglas was clearly doing.

Just so you know, the ref does take longer than 10 to get to 8, but Douglas was obviously listening to the count, and not a stopwatch at ringside.

[StarshipTrooper]

Dempsey beat Tunny in my book.

Dempsey refused to go to a neutral corner. He had no one to blame but himself that Tunney got extra time to recover. No fighter should benefit from his own wrongdoing.

PS. I'm a fan of Jack Dempsey and I don't care for Gene Tunney, but in this instance Dempsey was in the wrong.

Poet

[Mike Tyson77]

Tyson was drinking the night before the fight and not training. Not to mention he had 3 morons in his conor with a condom or rubber glove full of water. Of course that's all Tysons fault, but how many fighters could have beaten Douglas that night under those conditions?



I was drinking last night and can bearly type let alone fight that Douglas.