How would a young Mike Tyson fair against the real big heavyweights of today.

[QueensburyRules]

I'm positive Ruddock would spark usyk.

- -Who did Razor ever beat that was better than Usyk?

This should be fun!

[them_apples]

- -Who did Razor ever beat that was better than Usyk?

This should be fun!

who did Usyk beat at all? who has Usyk even fought for that matter lol

[thebrownbomber_]

Im not even going to respond to that long post of just nothingness lol. Wilder is so technically weak that a 50 year old Lennox Lewis can outjab him anyday. Tyson is literally the worst style match up for wilder anyday lmao.

[them_apples]

Hahahahaha @ Fury a non-puncher. How is a 275 pound titan a non-puncher!? He was putting everything into those shots, and they kept coming all night long. Show me where Ruddock ever landed a punch like the one Fury dropped Wilder with. Show me when Ruddock effectively went to the body.

No, Fury not a Arguello type (NOT A SINGLE Heavyweight since Louis has been). But a dude that size is going to hit hard. He also swarmed all over Wilder, it was very suffocating. He also picked his shots well, and set up his offense. Not bad for a guy who'd spent his career aspiring to be the Heavyweight division's best ever pure Boxer.

Ruddock never put on a beatdown like that. He had one good punch, yeah. When being 220 pounds was considered monstrous and roiding out was the business of the day. He'd be an unknown today.

Rudoock was even more of a front runner than Tyson was. It's like comparing Bob Sapp to Derick Lewis, both are scary guys if you don't know what you're doing. But you think Stipe or Fedor would lose sleep over fighting them!?!?

Keep in mind Tyson DID get KO'd by Douglas. And had no answer for pitter-at Holyfield. Bobby Czyz did better, for God's sake. Sure, Tyson was far from his best, but it's also indicative of the mindset Tyson had. Wilder was getting smashed by Fury and was stopped on his feet, with no sign of desiring to quit.



Now you're asking me to watch fights which I told YOU about!?

In those fights Tyson still got caught. Don't get me wrong, he could take one helluva punch. But he wasn't fighting anyone who could flatline a fighter like Wilder. Watch the first Fury fight, watch the Ortiz rematch. Look what he did to the Pollock lad, and to Big Dom. The dude starches people. Buster Douglas never fought anyone that big, and he definitely never flattened anyone.

Tyson, even at his best, became static and easy to hit. It was mostly that his opponents were simply fighting to survive that he never paid for it. An ogre like Wilder is gonna eat him for lunch.



Who was Tony Tucker!? Tillis? MITCH GREEN!? Williams was finished when he met Tyson; Thomas, too. Not at all bad wins by the standard of the day. But again, not one of them fit to carry Usyk's jockstrap. None of those dudes are great Boxers, they're all ridiculously easy to hit. Do you really envision guys like Bruno or Tucker lasting more than a handful of rounds against Beyonce before getting carted out on a stretcher!?

Wilder dwarfs Ortiz, who is bigger, more fit and more technically sound than all of these clowns. It's like they learned to Box in prison or something. They were barely professionals, and simply moving a little and keeping their hands up received them accolades for their technical ability. Yeah, Wilder's PAINFUL to watch, but he's remarkably effective at getting the job done.

Just like Ingo was against Machen and Patterson.

Have you seen Liston-Patterson? Tell me how the Peek-a-Boo style works against a bigger man with devastating power.



Wilder DID hunt down Fury. And he did badly seek the rematch.

Fury, came out of deep depression to become the GOAT Heavyweight.

It's only Joshua who don't want fights.

Wilder is playing games with the third installment, but that can be forgiven.

No one in Tyson's era was as dangerous, big or skilled as what we see today.

I actually wouldn't put it past Fluffy to have comparable success to what Tyson had, AND have a longer lasting legacy. Sure, you probably wouldn't see the devastating KO's that Tyson had, even with the ridiculous amount of PEDs that would have been available to him. But I can easily envision Ruiz dominating the division, just the same.

This has got to be one of the most uneducated posts Rusty has ever written. Everything is wrong I don't have the energy to respond as others have said.

[QueensburyRules]

who did Usyk beat at all? who has Usyk even fought for that matter lol

- -If U gotta ask, knowing is beyond your comprehension.

[billeau2]

This has got to be one of the most uneducated posts Rusty has ever written. Everything is wrong I don't have the energy to respond as others have said.

Not even close... Rusty once argued for over half a thread... insulting, mocking experience, etc... Only to discover that the subject at hand (cutting the ring off) was unknown to him. Could not even be bothered to look up what cutting the ring off meant. So far that has to be one of his worse... I might make a dome thread about some of his best work.