How would a young Mike Tyson fair against the real big heavyweights of today.

[Gamer30168]

Prime Tyson would do the same to today's HWs as he did to the guys in his era. He beats the eyebrows off 9 out of 10 with ease. The other 1 might put up a fight but still get knocked tf out

[them_apples]

Hahahahaha @ Fury a non-puncher. How is a 275 pound titan a non-puncher!? He was putting everything into those shots, and they kept coming all night long. Show me where Ruddock ever landed a punch like the one Fury dropped Wilder with. Show me when Ruddock effectively went to the body.

No, Fury not a Arguello type (NOT A SINGLE Heavyweight since Louis has been). But a dude that size is going to hit hard. He also swarmed all over Wilder, it was very suffocating. He also picked his shots well, and set up his offense. Not bad for a guy who'd spent his career aspiring to be the Heavyweight division's best ever pure Boxer.

Ruddock never put on a beatdown like that. He had one good punch, yeah. When being 220 pounds was considered monstrous and roiding out was the business of the day. He'd be an unknown today.

Rudoock was even more of a front runner than Tyson was. It's like comparing Bob Sapp to Derick Lewis, both are scary guys if you don't know what you're doing. But you think Stipe or Fedor would lose sleep over fighting them!?!?

Keep in mind Tyson DID get KO'd by Douglas. And had no answer for pitter-at Holyfield. Bobby Czyz did better, for God's sake. Sure, Tyson was far from his best, but it's also indicative of the mindset Tyson had. Wilder was getting smashed by Fury and was stopped on his feet, with no sign of desiring to quit.



Now you're asking me to watch fights which I told YOU about!?

In those fights Tyson still got caught. Don't get me wrong, he could take one helluva punch. But he wasn't fighting anyone who could flatline a fighter like Wilder. Watch the first Fury fight, watch the Ortiz rematch. Look what he did to the Pollock lad, and to Big Dom. The dude starches people. Buster Douglas never fought anyone that big, and he definitely never flattened anyone.

Tyson, even at his best, became static and easy to hit. It was mostly that his opponents were simply fighting to survive that he never paid for it. An ogre like Wilder is gonna eat him for lunch.



Who was Tony Tucker!? Tillis? MITCH GREEN!? Williams was finished when he met Tyson; Thomas, too. Not at all bad wins by the standard of the day. But again, not one of them fit to carry Usyk's jockstrap. None of those dudes are great Boxers, they're all ridiculously easy to hit. Do you really envision guys like Bruno or Tucker lasting more than a handful of rounds against Beyonce before getting carted out on a stretcher!?

Wilder dwarfs Ortiz, who is bigger, more fit and more technically sound than all of these clowns. It's like they learned to Box in prison or something. They were barely professionals, and simply moving a little and keeping their hands up received them accolades for their technical ability. Yeah, Wilder's PAINFUL to watch, but he's remarkably effective at getting the job done.

Just like Ingo was against Machen and Patterson.

Have you seen Liston-Patterson? Tell me how the Peek-a-Boo style works against a bigger man with devastating power.



Wilder DID hunt down Fury. And he did badly seek the rematch.

Fury, came out of deep depression to become the GOAT Heavyweight.

It's only Joshua who don't want fights.

Wilder is playing games with the third installment, but that can be forgiven.

No one in Tyson's era was as dangerous, big or skilled as what we see today.

I actually wouldn't put it past Fluffy to have comparable success to what Tyson had, AND have a longer lasting legacy. Sure, you probably wouldn't see the devastating KO's that Tyson had, even with the ridiculous amount of PEDs that would have been available to him. But I can easily envision Ruiz dominating the division, just the same.

this is where your boxing IQ goes off the deep end. I don't understand how skewed your heavyweight knowledge is, its almost as if you are trolling sometimes.

Wilder is only a knockout artist because they fed him literal cab drivers. literally, I bet some of them are cab drivers.

Wilder had no sign of desiring to quit because Fury simply doesnt hit hard enough to put someone out, and Wilder cant defend himself well enough to not get hit. So he recieved brain damage instead by taking slow lobbing shots flush. Wilder doesnt ride or roll any punches at all, its hands up or take the shot flush.

Fury is not a puncher, and there are plenty of 270 lb heavyweights that can't or couldnt punch....

that's about all I'm going to reply to since everything you said is the polar opposite of the truth.

[billeau2]

this is where your boxing IQ goes off the deep end. I don't understand how skewed your heavyweight knowledge is, its almost as if you are trolling sometimes.

Wilder is only a knockout artist because they fed him literal cab drivers. literally, I bet some of them are cab drivers.

Wilder had no sign of desiring to quit because Fury simply doesnt hit hard enough to put someone out, and Wilder cant defend himself well enough to not get hit. So he recieved brain damage instead by taking slow lobbing shots flush. Wilder doesnt ride or roll any punches at all, its hands up or take the shot flush.

Fury is not a puncher, and there are plenty of 270 lb heavyweights that can't or couldnt punch....

that's about all I'm going to reply to since everything you said is the polar opposite of the truth.

Rusty has a new trick. He acts like it is absurd anyone would not look at him throwing s hit at the wall and going "ewwwww!" As he waits for some of the crap to stick you better not question what all that s hit is on the floor.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Bingo conformation once again you have been owned. Thank you!

You've captivated my attention from the moment the sh'it began pouring from your mouth. I've never seen anything like it. You're remarkable. You're exposed at every turn. But instead of cleaning up your act, or at least keeping mum, you double down. At first I was embarrassed for you. But now i'm in awe. Instigating your craziness has actually become my obsession.

I never thought I'd see someone argue that Ruddock was more skilled than Usyk, but there you've gone and done it!

[Rusty Tromboni]

this is where your boxing IQ goes off the deep end. I don't understand how skewed your heavyweight knowledge is, its almost as if you are trolling sometimes.

Wilder is only a knockout artist because they fed him literal cab drivers. literally, I bet some of them are cab drivers.

Wilder had no sign of desiring to quit because Fury simply doesnt hit hard enough to put someone out, and Wilder cant defend himself well enough to not get hit. So he recieved brain damage instead by taking slow lobbing shots flush. Wilder doesnt ride or roll any punches at all, its hands up or take the shot flush.

Fury is not a puncher, and there are plenty of 270 lb heavyweights that can't or couldnt punch....

that's about all I'm going to reply to since everything you said is the polar opposite of the truth.

Show me anyone Frazier (other than Ali) or Foreman beat better than Stiverne.

Hell, I'd argue Stiverne takes a punch better than Frazier, and would know enough not to run into Foreman like Joe did.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Rusty has a new trick. He acts like it is absurd anyone would not look at him throwing s hit at the wall and going "ewwwww!" As he waits for some of the crap to stick you better not question what all that s hit is on the floor.

I bet your mom thinks your cool.

And we know the submissive Asian girls at the massage parlor will tell you whatever you pay them to say. Those mostly they just hold you while you cry, right?

[Rusty Tromboni]

this is where your boxing IQ goes off the deep end. I don't understand how skewed your heavyweight knowledge is, its almost as if you are trolling sometimes.

Wilder is only a knockout artist because they fed him literal cab drivers. literally, I bet some of them are cab drivers.

Wilder had no sign of desiring to quit because Fury simply doesnt hit hard enough to put someone out, and Wilder cant defend himself well enough to not get hit. So he recieved brain damage instead by taking slow lobbing shots flush. Wilder doesnt ride or roll any punches at all, its hands up or take the shot flush.

Fury is not a puncher, and there are plenty of 270 lb heavyweights that can't or couldnt punch....

that's about all I'm going to reply to since everything you said is the polar opposite of the truth.

Tell us again how 220 lb Steve Cunningham is just a Cruiserweight.

[billeau2]

You've captivated my attention from the moment the sh'it began pouring from your mouth. I've never seen anything like it. You're remarkable. You're exposed at every turn. But instead of cleaning up your act, or at least keeping mum, you double down. At first I was embarrassed for you. But now i'm in awe. Instigating your craziness has actually become my obsession.

I never thought I'd see someone argue that Ruddock was more skilled than Usyk, but there you've gone and done it!

Not any argument I ever made... show me where that was said. You just described yourself and attributed the behavior to me. And... no sh it pours from a mouth here idiot...

Rusty you never exposed anything here exposed is what you did with yourself in Paramus mall when the cops picked you up for indecent exposure.

[them_apples]

You've captivated my attention from the moment the sh'it began pouring from your mouth. I've never seen anything like it. You're remarkable. You're exposed at every turn. But instead of cleaning up your act, or at least keeping mum, you double down. At first I was embarrassed for you. But now i'm in awe. Instigating your craziness has actually become my obsession.

I never thought I'd see someone argue that Ruddock was more skilled than Usyk, but there you've gone and done it!

I'm positive Ruddock would spark usyk. How is that absurd to you lol. Are you trolling?

[them_apples]

Show me anyone Frazier (other than Ali) or Foreman beat better than Stiverne.

Hell, I'd argue Stiverne takes a punch better than Frazier, and would know enough not to run into Foreman like Joe did.

Posts like these don't even deserve a thought up response lol. Like I said, your arguments in other weight classes, though still disagreeable are fair. But at heavyweight you go into video game mode.