How would a young Mike Tyson fair against the real big heavyweights of today.

[billeau2]

The talent to do things wrong because of speed and reflexes? I've heard the same thing about Roy Jones in his prime. Is that true? It would explain the quick decline. Ali adjusted his style as he got older, but Roy didn't seem to.

Yeah pure athletic ability so to speak.

[thebrownbomber_]

While maybe not as quick, Tommy Morrison said the same thing about Lennox Lewis on Ringside. That Lewis wasn't the hardest puncher he faced, but still hit hard and caught him with punches he didn't see coming. Would you agree when watching Lennox's fights?

Lennox was a good boxer who had a solid jab, so I could see lennox catching you with right hands that knock you down which you dont see coming. He did this against Tyson as well.

[thebrownbomber_]

If you think Tyson was more skilled than Usyk you're only confirming what everyone has already been thinking about you.

Tyson weighed 220 pounds when he could pass his child's urine through a prosthetic di'ck. No way he'd be entering the scene like that. And while his offense was very good, it only lasted for a few rounds. He abandoned it as he fatigued.


Wilder landed TWICE on Fury. Tyson never fought any one that good. He definitely never dropped anyone that good. Lots of fighters caught Tyson coming in.


Do you REALLY THINK FRANK BRUNO HITS HARDER THAN WILDER?

Simple question.

Bruh. Watch all of Tysons fights under Kevin Rooney. He had it all; head movement, angles, speed, and combinations. He only couldnt fight moving backward because he didnt need to. He also was able to offset bigger dudes jabs by outboxing them, watch his fights with tony tucker.

Im pretty sure Razor Ruddock hits as hard if not harder than wilder, and tyson ate his signature punch, the smash, multiple times for breakfast, while wilder got dropped by a non-puncher in fury and possibly got brain damage, as seen by his ridicoulous excuses. This same wilder has the audacity to tell us to forget the past, when champions ACTUALLY FOUGHT EACHOTHER, unlike now in which AJ/Wilder/Fury oddly cannot even come to terms.

[Rusty Tromboni]

while wilder got dropped by a non-puncher in fury and possibly got brain damage, as seen by his ridicoulous excuses.

Hahahahaha @ Fury a non-puncher. How is a 275 pound titan a non-puncher!? He was putting everything into those shots, and they kept coming all night long. Show me where Ruddock ever landed a punch like the one Fury dropped Wilder with. Show me when Ruddock effectively went to the body.

No, Fury not a Arguello type (NOT A SINGLE Heavyweight since Louis has been). But a dude that size is going to hit hard. He also swarmed all over Wilder, it was very suffocating. He also picked his shots well, and set up his offense. Not bad for a guy who'd spent his career aspiring to be the Heavyweight division's best ever pure Boxer.

Ruddock never put on a beatdown like that. He had one good punch, yeah. When being 220 pounds was considered monstrous and roiding out was the business of the day. He'd be an unknown today.

Rudoock was even more of a front runner than Tyson was. It's like comparing Bob Sapp to Derick Lewis, both are scary guys if you don't know what you're doing. But you think Stipe or Fedor would lose sleep over fighting them!?!?

Keep in mind Tyson DID get KO'd by Douglas. And had no answer for pitter-at Holyfield. Bobby Czyz did better, for God's sake. Sure, Tyson was far from his best, but it's also indicative of the mindset Tyson had. Wilder was getting smashed by Fury and was stopped on his feet, with no sign of desiring to quit.

Bruh. Watch all of Tysons fights under Kevin Rooney. He had it all; head movement, angles, speed, and combinations. He only couldnt fight moving backward because he didnt need to. He also was able to offset bigger dudes jabs by outboxing them, watch his fights with tony tucker.

Now you're asking me to watch fights which I told YOU about!?

In those fights Tyson still got caught. Don't get me wrong, he could take one helluva punch. But he wasn't fighting anyone who could flatline a fighter like Wilder. Watch the first Fury fight, watch the Ortiz rematch. Look what he did to the Pollock lad, and to Big Dom. The dude starches people. Buster Douglas never fought anyone that big, and he definitely never flattened anyone.

Tyson, even at his best, became static and easy to hit. It was mostly that his opponents were simply fighting to survive that he never paid for it. An ogre like Wilder is gonna eat him for lunch.

He also was able to offset bigger dudes jabs by outboxing them, watch his fights with tony tucker.

Who was Tony Tucker!? Tillis? MITCH GREEN!? Williams was finished when he met Tyson; Thomas, too. Not at all bad wins by the standard of the day. But again, not one of them fit to carry Usyk's jockstrap. None of those dudes are great Boxers, they're all ridiculously easy to hit. Do you really envision guys like Bruno or Tucker lasting more than a handful of rounds against Beyonce before getting carted out on a stretcher!?

Wilder dwarfs Ortiz, who is bigger, more fit and more technically sound than all of these clowns. It's like they learned to Box in prison or something. They were barely professionals, and simply moving a little and keeping their hands up received them accolades for their technical ability. Yeah, Wilder's PAINFUL to watch, but he's remarkably effective at getting the job done.

Just like Ingo was against Machen and Patterson.

Have you seen Liston-Patterson? Tell me how the Peek-a-Boo style works against a bigger man with devastating power.

This same wilder has the audacity to tell us to forget the past, when champions ACTUALLY FOUGHT EACHOTHER, unlike now in which AJ/Wilder/Fury oddly cannot even come to terms.

Wilder DID hunt down Fury. And he did badly seek the rematch.

Fury, came out of deep depression to become the GOAT Heavyweight.

It's only Joshua who don't want fights.

Wilder is playing games with the third installment, but that can be forgiven.

No one in Tyson's era was as dangerous, big or skilled as what we see today.

I actually wouldn't put it past Fluffy to have comparable success to what Tyson had, AND have a longer lasting legacy. Sure, you probably wouldn't see the devastating KO's that Tyson had, even with the ridiculous amount of PEDs that would have been available to him. But I can easily envision Ruiz dominating the division, just the same.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Fluffiest history I seen in some time.

Goats have defenses, lots. Fury has zer0.

[billeau2]

Hahahahaha @ Fury a non-puncher. How is a 275 pound titan a non-puncher!? He was putting everything into those shots, and they kept coming all night long. Show me where Ruddock ever landed a punch like the one Fury dropped Wilder with. Show me when Ruddock effectively went to the body.

No, Fury not a Arguello type (NOT A SINGLE Heavyweight since Louis has been). But a dude that size is going to hit hard. He also swarmed all over Wilder, it was very suffocating. He also picked his shots well, and set up his offense. Not bad for a guy who'd spent his career aspiring to be the Heavyweight division's best ever pure Boxer.

Ruddock never put on a beatdown like that. He had one good punch, yeah. When being 220 pounds was considered monstrous and roiding out was the business of the day. He'd be an unknown today.

Rudoock was even more of a front runner than Tyson was. It's like comparing Bob Sapp to Derick Lewis, both are scary guys if you don't know what you're doing. But you think Stipe or Fedor would lose sleep over fighting them!?!?

Keep in mind Tyson DID get KO'd by Douglas. And had no answer for pitter-at Holyfield. Bobby Czyz did better, for God's sake. Sure, Tyson was far from his best, but it's also indicative of the mindset Tyson had. Wilder was getting smashed by Fury and was stopped on his feet, with no sign of desiring to quit.



Now you're asking me to watch fights which I told YOU about!?

In those fights Tyson still got caught. Don't get me wrong, he could take one helluva punch. But he wasn't fighting anyone who could flatline a fighter like Wilder. Watch the first Fury fight, watch the Ortiz rematch. Look what he did to the Pollock lad, and to Big Dom. The dude starches people. Buster Douglas never fought anyone that big, and he definitely never flattened anyone.

Tyson, even at his best, became static and easy to hit. It was mostly that his opponents were simply fighting to survive that he never paid for it. An ogre like Wilder is gonna eat him for lunch.



Who was Tony Tucker!? Tillis? MITCH GREEN!? Williams was finished when he met Tyson; Thomas, too. Not at all bad wins by the standard of the day. But again, not one of them fit to carry Usyk's jockstrap. None of those dudes are great Boxers, they're all ridiculously easy to hit. Do you really envision guys like Bruno or Tucker lasting more than a handful of rounds against Beyonce before getting carted out on a stretcher!?

Wilder dwarfs Ortiz, who is bigger, more fit and more technically sound than all of these clowns. It's like they learned to Box in prison or something. They were barely professionals, and simply moving a little and keeping their hands up received them accolades for their technical ability. Yeah, Wilder's PAINFUL to watch, but he's remarkably effective at getting the job done.

Just like Ingo was against Machen and Patterson.

Have you seen Liston-Patterson? Tell me how the Peek-a-Boo style works against a bigger man with devastating power.



Wilder DID hunt down Fury. And he did badly seek the rematch.

Fury, came out of deep depression to become the GOAT Heavyweight.

It's only Joshua who don't want fights.

Wilder is playing games with the third installment, but that can be forgiven.

No one in Tyson's era was as dangerous, big or skilled as what we see today.

I actually wouldn't put it past Fluffy to have comparable success to what Tyson had, AND have a longer lasting legacy. Sure, you probably wouldn't see the devastating KO's that Tyson had, even with the ridiculous amount of PEDs that would have been available to him. But I can easily envision Ruiz dominating the division, just the same.

All the bolded are either false, misleading, totally inaccurate, or just plain wrong...

Examples: ruddock, if one bothered to look, only later became a one armed fighter. there is tape big mouth! You can watch Razor spar Holmes... Look carefully if you are capable of doing so...



Pittar patter of Holyfield? Really? Idiot. Enough time wasted on pointing out with proof that you are an idiot.

[Anthony342]

Yeah pure athletic ability so to speak.

Thanks man.

[Anthony342]

Lennox was a good boxer who had a solid jab, so I could see lennox catching you with right hands that knock you down which you dont see coming. He did this against Tyson as well.

Thanks for the education.

[Rusty Tromboni]

All the bolded are either false, misleading, totally inaccurate, or just plain wrong...

Examples: ruddock, if one bothered to look, only later became a one armed fighter. there is tape big mouth! You can watch Razor spar Holmes... Look carefully if you are capable of doing so...



Pittar patter of Holyfield? Really? Idiot. Enough time wasted on pointing out with proof that you are an idiot.

When does your next government check come?

Clearly you're missing your Asian comfort women at the local massage parlor.

[billeau2]

When does your next government check come?

Clearly you're missing your Asian comfort women at the local massage parlor.

Bingo conformation once again you have been owned. Thank you!