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  • #21
    Originally posted by Yaman View Post
    Not from you though huh, cause then we'd all be hating white fighters
    I don't hate white fighters, I hate racist fighters.

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    • #22
      I see. A bit offtopic, but was Dempsey by any chance racist aswell? I have no idea about this, im just wondering.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger View Post
        thats impossible, no one can be more than 100% right by definition that is the most anyone can be.

        You know what I meant. I meant that I agree 100%, and that I think he couldn't be more correct.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Yaman View Post
          I see. A bit offtopic, but was Dempsey by any chance racist aswell? I have no idea about this, im just wondering.
          supposedly dempsy wasnt a racist, its kinda iffy to say if he was or he wasnt, he signed to fight harry wills but dempsys handlers didnt honor the contract and instead signed to fight tunney (imo there would of been a black heavyweight champ pre louis if wills woulda fought dempsy, since dempsy wasnt an active champ at all)

          but back on topic, ive heard stories about how strong jeffries was in close, maybe true but if the saying is true in boxing for an older boxer the last thing to go is power, but he didnt have that in the fight with johnson thats for sure, johnson messed him up. I think jeffries was more powerful in clinches, not in punching power or anything....but of course he couldnt of outpowered a foreman or a ali for that matter. One reason why i think so many say he was strong is cause thats all they saw, him and his wrasslin his opponents.

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          • #25
            Jeffries went from 330+ to about 225 for Johnson in a very short span of time. Losing a hundred pounds will weaken any man.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
              I don't hate white fighters, I hate racist fighters.
              I agree, and I am very happy to see you feel that way, because judging a man by the color of his skin is one of the worst things a human being can do. But, you must consider the time period that Jeffries lived in.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Yaman View Post
                I see. A bit offtopic, but was Dempsey by any chance racist aswell? I have no idea about this, im just wondering.
                No, Dempsey being a racist is a myth.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
                  No, Dempsey being a racist is a myth.
                  Indeed. Dempsey had no problem fighting black fighters but the promoters and handlers around Dempsey did have a problem with it.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Mistadobalina View Post
                    as far as in-ring, functional strength goes, i've heard alot of stories about this guy being a phenomenally strong mofo. how did his ability to man-handle opponents compare (at least p4p since HW's were obviously smaller back then) to guys like george foreman or lennox lewis?
                    - -Foreman stronger than Lewis, and Jeffries prime around the same poundage.

                    Reputedly he could cover 100 yrds in 10 sec flat and hauled a 200 lb Cali buck on his shoulders several miles back to camp.

                    I don't recommend trying that.

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                    • #30
                      I knew a man who was naturally stronger than either Foreman or Jefferies. It is true he worked like a beast of burden and noticed what work did to his muscles... But he would have out gripped them both. Never lifted a barbel in his life.

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