Since it was 2004 we might as well talk about Morales-Barrera 3. God it was a good ass fight. If Morales had just started a little earlier, he would have won imo.
Trinidad-Mayorga, Juan Manuel Marquez-Manny Pacquiao, Mike Tyson-Danny Williams. 2004 had some incredible fights. Even some good fights like Winky-Mosley and Hopkins-De La Hoya were enjoyable because I enjoy those type of fights.
I hate all caps but.. WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR VASQUEZ MARQUEZ III??!!!!!
Pacquiao facing "prime" Mexicans
When will they knock him down for a change?
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Hahahah Good rebuttal!
I compared Martinez's to Mayweathers' as well. Does that make me a flomo as well? Why just Pactard? Not that I'm claiming to be both which I'm not. Just putting things in perspective
Let me know when he agreed to OST..it was just a article on here some weeks back tell the full story about the second negotations and how BOB Arum played the media into thinking its all Mayweather fault..somebody please post it
LOL let me try this again. Just search "Pacquiao agreed to random drug testing" and it's all over google.
Wow good job judging me and knowing EXACTLY where I come from. Stating my opinion and what I grew up with. Sure I didn't know everything about it but that's been part of my Filipino culture for hundreds of years. I apologize for clowning them that's my mistake human reaction I guess but to say I don't know my own culture. No. Good job YOU ROCK for knowing shit. But thanks anyways your banter.
And most of all I hate hypocrites. Thank you and have a good day. *bow*
And for you: *a round of applause for owning me* And yes I was being sarcastic if that didn't get through your mind. Haha
Bradley is the truth man. If Pac fights Bradley and beats him I think it would enhance Pac's legacy no matter if they're younger fighters. Though Pac needs to demolish Valero's spirit and arrogance though not to mention ko him.
then your analogy is done, morales and marquez put it on pac worse than floyd put it on ricky.
Agreed.. At least Pac went the full 12 rounds with both.
I wouldn't say Pac wasn't fighting for legacy. You're telling me fighting Cotto whom just last year everybody was talking about Cotto being the fight that needs to happen with Mayweather as a non legacy fight? He's fighting him for the 7th division to be champion at. Cotto has one freaking loss and everybody's saying that Margarito took something from Cotto.
Well let me ask this. Then does that mean the Torrecampo fight took something from Manny? How about the UD loss to Morales? Then how about the Singsurat fight?
Cotto gets one loss and all of a sudden he's done? Hatton gets one loss (To Mayweather no less) and he's done??
But it's okay that Pacquiao losses to MOrales and 2 unknowns to keep getting better?
Whatever happened to "Learn from your losses?" It seems like Pacquiao is the only fighter to have the *sarcasm*privilege to have that. The rest are: It has taken something from that fighter.
Bump again until people can actually explain this that goes around this board saying Pac isn't treated to the same standard as Cotto.
Pac can have 3 losses but he's ok?
Cotto can have one and he's shot?
Thought I'd bump this thread up because people are bringing up the fact that Cotto is damaged goods and he's only had 1 LOSS! WTF? Why can't people say the same about PAC and he's had three losses? He got schooled by Morales and was quite a war and the same with the Marquez? Again I still don't get why people are saying that about Cotto?!! Cotto is not damaged goods. If he is then Pacquiao is damaged goods as well.
nate campbell and joan guzman
who cares if nate's biggest win is juan diaz or that joan guzman likes buffets...its manny's fault he never fought them
Both of them have better resumes??
Campbell: Funeka, J Diaz, Acorro, Quiles, Zegan, Hlatswayo.. Are you serious?
Guzman: Ameth Diaz (Whoever he is), Soto, Davis, Barrios, Jauregui, Jandaeng.
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I wouldn't say Pac wasn't fighting for legacy. You're telling me fighting Cotto whom just last year everybody was talking about Cotto being the fight that needs to happen with Mayweather as a non legacy fight? He's fighting him for the 7th division to be champion at. Cotto has one freaking loss and everybody's saying that Margarito took something from Cotto.
Well let me ask this. Then does that mean the Torrecampo fight took something from Manny? How about the UD loss to Morales? Then how about the Singsurat fight?
Cotto gets one loss and all of a sudden he's done? Hatton gets one loss (To Mayweather no less) and he's done??
But it's okay that Pacquiao losses to MOrales and 2 unknowns to keep getting better?
Whatever happened to "Learn from your losses?" It seems like Pacquiao is the only fighter to have the *sarcasm*privilege to have that. The rest are: It has taken something from that fighter.
It's just interesting to know what the difference is honestly. Since by all rights and accounts that first fight with Morales, nobody would've blamed Pacquiao for declining after that.
By Pacquiao already losing 3 times. That should make Pacquiao be past his prime at this point? Why Cotto has 1 lose and is already considered past his prime is beyond me.
Lyoto Machida UFC light heavyweight champion believes in this philosophy as well. Not that it matters. He's 15-0 and has never lost a round in the UFC. I understand it's a boxing forum and not MMA but I thought I would at least bring some credibility to this theory by bringing another very well respected fighter in the mix. :D
For those who aren't familiar with the term nosode, it is a term you would have known had you have taken college level health classes. Basically it is a homeopathic theory, which involves the use of body secretion.
Healing Yourself using Urine
by Flora Peschek-Böhmer Ph.D.,
and Gisela Schreiber
Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.), namesake of the Hippocratic oath, was the first in the Western world to record and teach the practice of uropoty (the drinking of urine). The theory of urine therapy states: In the excreted urine all the body's experiences -- physical and psychological -- are collected. Reintroducing the urine to the body forces the body's immune system to confront the same experiences a second time, which gives it a second incentive to deal with the problem.
Urine functions as a nosode, a small impulse of disease that, when introduced to the body, triggers the healing powers of the immune system. From homeopathy the principle of "healing like with like" is well-known. Today's vaccinations work on the same principle: A small impulse of an illness is introduced to the body to trigger its massive defense mechanism. In the case of immunizations one can obtain protection lasting for decades; when using urine therapy a refreshment is recommended after one year, or sometimes after just half a year.
The Death of Prejudice
Fear about urine is conditioned and irrational. The following prejudices must be overcome:
1. Urine is full of germs.
In the first fifteen minutes after leaving the body, urine is absolutely sterile for the producer's own body. Only after this period do the germs begin their work. However, they are not dangerous at all, and can even be beneficial for external applications.
Read on: http://www.innerself.com/Health/urine.htm