Loss to Morales
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Draw against Marquez, after Marquez battled through 3 knockdowns
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Loss to Marquez with judges who have plain and basic common sense
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But he is still p4p number 1
Loss to Morales
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Draw against Marquez, after Marquez battled through 3 knockdowns
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Loss to Marquez with judges who have plain and basic common sense
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But he is still p4p number 1
Realest shit said. He lost 3 of 3 fights against prime fighters in there prime.How can he be the top fighter.He's top 5 tough
You have some real simple-minded logic to be posted up on a boxing website lol. But your a Paq fan right? Didn't really watch the sport till Paq showed up huh? You don't really look any further past the fact someone just got beat someone, right?
Cause when I say fresh bodies, I obviously mean fresh talented bodies lol. The type of fighters who would give Manny problems. lol I don't mean Michael Katsidis. Infact I mean every fighter BUT the Michale Katsidis' of the sport lmao. (Mike is a decent fighter, but he's been prone to gettin hit since he showed up. And just like Hatton he can't really take a punch and fatigues late.)- For the Katsidis fans blah blah blah..
And I don't even know how you could drop Campbell's name like that. I mean some fighters age like Hopkins, they can still throw somthin hard late in their careers. I mean if you look at Nate's style compared to Juan's earlier style, he may look lethargic, but he obviously still has some stiffness in his punch.
But yeah, to assume every old fighter will get demolished or should get demolished is a bit...well, fuckin retarded. lol You really can't generalize that easily in this sport.
Thank you for exposing yourself as a 1st class hater full of double standards. So Barrera and Morales were on the verge of passing down the torch that pretty much anyone coulda beat em at the point Pacquiao destroyed them But Casa and Campbell are still good enough to compete with prime fresh young bodies?? :wtf1:
Past prime Morales and Barrera would have beaten all these "fresh prime threats" you mention Pac avoiding but hey...since Pac destroyed them in such emphatic fashion let's call them over the hill.:pat:
No way "prime" juan diaz, or joan guzman, or amir khan or any other young gun beats nate campbell but when Pacman beats him hey....campbell was old.. when is pac going to face young threats like Campbell did.
And since you're putting Juan Diaz in this list of fresh young talent that'd destroy Pac...you're going to make yourself look even stupider when he gets beat by according to you...a mediocre fighter in michael katsidis
Monroe Doctrine was a attempt through means of international law and practices at regional Imperialism.. It was American declaration to the world that it will at any given time defend its national security at or near its borders... Loosely, it provided the legal framework as justification to enter other nations if interests were at stake...
And you need to read more conspiracy books...
i do.
i don't believe everything i read.
Nah, he shouldn't have...it's not that serious.
I mean if it wasn't Paq's fresh self to lay him out, it would have been one of the others. Soto, Guzman, possibley even Marquez.
You don't know where you are as a fighter until you show the signs in the ring. The signs that tell you your body isn't there anymore. Only after that you either retire, or get on some Barrera shit and try to stay on your toes and move for 12 rounds.
i was a barrera guy. i loved marco and hated erik.
i didn't get into erik 'til my homegirl got me into liking him. she's one of his nieces or cousin or something. nice piece of ass too.
her and the manny fights got me to liking erik and moving away from marco.
would've been a nice send off if he could've gotten the decision against diaz. my homegirl was pissed at the decision.
Come on man, if they could split the atom in 1943-44, they couldnt fucking keep tabs on the damn Japanese fleet who was a potential enemy???
You see, Americans are a fickle people that historically with the advise of George Washington did not mess in worldly affairs... Americas lust for colonies started with the Monroe doctrine but still needed "outrageous scenarious" to entice the common people to dance to the beat of the war drums...
Now, im not saying all of American conflicts starts with self fabricated justifications, but the frequency of occurances would give a gambler the shakes...
Funny you mention 911... I think 911 was the best thing that ever happened to Bush.... If not "terrorism" what on earth would he ever campaign on?
monroe doctrine was to keep european powers from interfering in north and south american affairs.
i'm not gonna argue with you about ww2. to think american would sacrifice thousands of lives and an entire fleet is ridiculous. you do know that in 1941 radar was not yet common right? we had it but hardly what we have now.
kinda hard to keep track of the entire pacific ocean.
you read too much conspiracy books.
Morales was already on the decline the first Pacquiao fight.. He wasn't in his prime.
Thats why they call it look "turn the clock performances". Because they dont show it
The guy has litterally been fed old tender bodies and slow handed fighters.
I can't believe how much hype and praise a fighter can get for fightin this kind of opposition. I mean, I know Hatton got this much hype, he managed to score a fight with Mayweather even though he was exposed prior to that Mayweather bout. But people still thought he was this great fighter lol.
Paq is on that same movement, just his people are keepin him away from the "Mayweathers," lol especially after the Marquez fights.
His win's are all legit though, but the circumstances are in his favor every time. lol Paq has litterally hit the lottery. I mean you have Erik and Marco at their end, ready to pass the torch down to the new guys, who gets there first? Paq does lol. You got a weak title holder at lightweight like Diaz and who gets him before any of these prospect lightweights? lol Paq does. Hatton is a C+ fighter, such a C+ fighter that him fightin a ex-featherweight actually seems borderline dangerous for him. But Hatton still has enough hype that people are willing to pretend like he was once a dominant force, and we don't get to see him get blasted again by any of the prospect junior welterweights, but who gets a shot at this over-rated guy? lol Paq does.
lol He litterally has the 24 karat gold ticket for this ride. I mean all the fighters with any skill that he won't fight are chassin him up in weight hopin they get recognized enough for a chance to eat him up, lol but nah, that's all Edwin Valereo baby. lol So I'm pretty much convinced that Paq was born with the golden rice bowl, I mean all these fights are perfectly ok and they're also perfectly made for Paq.
lol Godlen, fuckin, rice bowl.
Weak fighters??? your weak.... Before Pac fought Barrera how many of yall were fuckin laughing at Pinoys hypin him up.... Pac win, excuses. 2nd fight Barrera is too old but you didn't hear that when he fought Marquez. When he fought Pac, excuses... Props to Erik on the first fight but everbody knows that that fight was close and exciting enough for a rematch with the fight being up in the air till the headbutt.. 2nd fight yall were still high on Morales and yall were talkin shit... Pac becomes the first guy to put him on the ground TKo's him, what do you all do, excuses... Marquez 1st fight everyone accepted the draw but judge messed up. And yall makin excuses for that..2nd Marquez fight, exuses.. Damn yall full of fuckin excuses... Yall in denial...
Elorde ruled the jr. light weight division for 7 years and was idolized by the likes of Duran...arguably beat saddler twice... Yeah weak fighters...
Pancho Villa... Drew a crown of 40,000 americans, people who recognized skill, againts another non-american.. 2 non americans drawing 40k.. when he fought againts jimmy wilde... Villa was known for being one the best of his era... yeah weak fighters.
Ceferino Garcia...invented the bolo punch won the title as an undersized middleweight ...he was weak
Sugar Ray Robinson fought a pinoy Bernard Docusen..Although he lost he gave Sugar Ray Robinson all he could handle with the bout being even for 10 rounds. writers wrote" "The fastest and most exciting battle seen in a Chicago ring since the Rocky Graziano-Tony Zale battle in the Stadium a year before... Docusen proved a foeman worthy of Robinson’s keenest steel... The flashy Filipino was not daunted in the least by Robinson’s reputation... For ten rounds Docusen fought Robinson on fairly even terms, and there was little to choose... Robinson pulled his waning forces together at the start of the eleventh.""
Luisito Espinosa, Navarette, Erbito Salavarria, Morris East etc... look em up... Thats just from the P.I....Cuz Pinoys have fought outside of asia... You wouldn't be hating right now if you see weakness...
Secondly, Rizal was angry much more with the religious tentacles of Catholocisms and their abuses and IMO enjoyed the uppercrust Meztizo lifestyle... Whereas, Bonifacio was a common man warrior, Lapu Lapu incarnated that wanted freedom at all cost...
Lapu Lapu was a datu. Cant get more uppercrust than that. And Lapu Lapu never gave a fuck about freedom. He just wanted the uninvited guests to get the fuck out his house
I wish i could but I dont. That ass is flat. Shes just sticking it out 2 make it look bigger
pussy is pussy. ass is ass. tits is tits. as long as it's not self-service it's all good..............
Come on Im no conspiracy buff but how the hell are you not keeping tabs or at least watching out for Japan, who was, to put it mildly a potential threat... Im mean come on, sending aid in form of armements and supplies to the Allies and you dont think their enemies are going to be mad???
How many damn planes were there that attacked pearl harbor??? You cant see or trace hundreds if not thousands of enemy airplanes and ships especially an area that houses our vital military equipment??? Man, America has a history of creating excuses to go to war...Its pretty well documented.
maybe. but you overestimate american intelligence.
i would think the u.s. if they wanted could find a betterway of starting a war than losing most of it's pacific fleet and thousands of men.
do you think george bush jr. attacked the trade center too?
lol So I saved the thread? That makes me a thread super-hero.
so mayan. when are you guys gonna make a decent 135 lber?
manny's running out sparring partners......
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a black woman ass is too damn big, this ass is perfect... not too big, not too small, just....perfect. :luvbed:
finally a post i can agree with.
Its not a conspiracy, Bonifacio was indeed killed by orders of Aguinaldo himself.. Bonifacio did not go along with the Aguinaldo aproved government and he was branded a traitor and shot, execution style...
IMO, Bonifacio should be the national hero of PI instead of Rizal...
I agree about the national hero thing but Rizal is a bad dude too. Not many pinoys speak 5 languages to this day as he did. And he's the 1st doctor in history to perform successful eye surgery
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