Floyd-Floyd is a top 50ATG easy based on SKILLS, RESUME, TITLES, ONLY FIGHTER TO DO IT UNDEFEATED IN AN AS MANY WEIGHT CLASSES AS FLOYD W/OUT TAKIN A L.
Floyd did not duck Tony-Tony was a TR fighter and had turned down the fight already-
Floyd's resume is better, however if there is one guy that Floyd ducked, its Cotto in 2007..Coulda fought Cotto instead of Ricky-Cotto hadn' signed Shane and Floyd had not signed Ricky.
Margarito is a joke-a garbage fighter-c- fighter w/out his wraps-anyone claiming Floyd ducked something like that is a joke.
I think there is enough money on the table for a 50/50 split. I think Team Mayweather should make their demand public or accept a 50/50 split-Pac said he'd take less, sure...but that could be a 51-49 split too-Kinda like how Pac did Hatton with his little 52-48 ****.
I disagree-He is the same as ever before, technically speaking. His right hand is the same as always too, as was shown in the JMM fight...Pac is no better than he was in JMM 2..He is the same..No less and no more.
Floyd's style is much harder and much more complicated than Pac's.
Pac fights ONE way-
Floyd is much more versatile-
Cotto should fight Floyd from a fan's perspective though-He would have an easier time dealing with Pac, technically speaking..But Floyd is a harder fight for Cotto.
Manny running scared-The bit3h said he'd take less and then wants a 50/50. Pac needa get his stuff straight-Guy is running scared of Floyd-wants no parts-
Team Pacquiao right after JMM 3-"We don't want Mayweather and instead are opting for a 4th fight with Marquez" LMFAO-THEY SO DAMN SCARED!
so easy to own these pactards-they don't use logic or real numbers-they just troll-easy to own em though-they don't bring real numbers or real sense to the table-just troll and blabber stuff that doesn't make sense.
So you have no answer to that? All you have is Pac fukked himself? I thought only Pactards have no boxing knowledge.....lol.
Pac lied? Please don't go there. Do you know how many times Floyd has lied?
\LMFAO-Look at this pactard-he doesn't even see that I answered his question-
Yes pactard-Pac messed up, when he said he was willing to take less money-
If you don't see that your blind or deaf- Would you like a source as to when/where he said it?
Pactard, it's very easy to own you on this forum-the fact that you don't even acknowledge that I answered your question shows how weak your argument is-ur already 0-5 against me-stop trying or I'll keep owning you little dude.
I didn't know Pac never made more than 7 million for a fight-I was looking at the purses and Manny has been raped by Arum-wow-
Look at what Floyd makes and then look at Pac-it's ridiculous-Pac was offered 40 million and he turned it down-lmfao-thats gonna hurt his pocket-he'll get maybe 7 million to fight Bradley.
Quite frankly, I think a 50-50 split is fine. But that includes splitting cost and revenue. It was fine in 2009, it should be fine now. However, something is off with what Manny is saying. Actually, it sounds like BS. Why? Because if he's being offered $40m minus PPV revenue - and then admits he's got a better deal being offered by TR - then it sounds like Manny/TR is not willing to split costs. Well if you're not willing to share that then why should you share profit? Just silly. Manny should go with his heart and walk away. Better to get raped by Arum outside of the ring then to get raped by Floyd in it, I guess.
I agree that there is enough money on the table for a 50/50 share...BUT we are where we are now-Pac said he'd take the lesser share-While it would be "only right" to do a 50/50 I AGREE-Pac messed his negotiations up, when he said he'd take the lesser split-furthermore it doesn't help that he has never been guaranteed anything more than 7.4 million while Floyd was offered 25 million (guarantee) in his last fight-Those 2 items give me an idea of each sides approach ya know.
Good post though-I agree in that there is enough money on the table for a 50/50 split!
Apples and bananas. Arum didn't say Dallas Stadium, take it or leave it. He invited the Team Diva. It turned out that the queen was just all bluff.
Apples and bananas. You peeps really have a hard time seeing an Asian guy rise to the top, aren't you? Do you really believe Hatton deserve 50/50?
Show me a link where Pac demanded OST.
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LMFAO-Wether he "deserved" it or not is not even relevant man-
The fact is, Manny verbally agreed to 50/50, and then went back on his word.
That is what matters-LMFAO at the "deserve" bull$HIT
Floyd isn't my idol
I watch the sport from 105-HW and all eras of the sport.
I've been watching since before Floyd or Pac were even pro.
I'm a boxing fan-not like these pactards and flomos who only follow one fighter. I watch the entire sport as a fan.
Team Pacroid should quit ducking this fight-40 million is a great offer-PAC DIDN'T EVEN COUNTER OFFER THOUGH-
It seems Pac is the one who don't want the fight-Floyd want the fight but Pac turned down a career high payday to fight Floyd and make history-guy is pathetic-
Pac even said he'd take a lesser split anyways!
As hard as you fought for that free job, being a mod is just not one of my aspirations in life. I have to stop laughing at you because today you've shown me how much it means to you...
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I'm new to posting on this forum, but there are a bunch of "pactards" on this site.
It's funny to see how many of them can't even rebuttal your posts properly-most of em just seem to be trolling
oh please....... lol
lol look at this pactard-
THIS IS MY ONLY ACCOUNT-STRAIGHT UP-GOT 0 TO HIDE LITTLE GUY-
Please rebuttal with something better than this-pathetic poster right here.
heheheheeeee yeah youre not an alt ....sure buddy. What your got banned and now youre back with this one...is that why you say youre not using an alt? Be a man what was your other account? heheheheeee
no pactard that is not what I am saying.
THIS IS MY ONLY NAME-IT IS NOT EVEN RELEVANT IF IT ISN'T-
I WAS JUST GIVING YOU A WAY TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH U DUMMY
To thread topic though pactard-I owned you like 6 posts ago AND your still trying to come up with a "alt" argument.
First off I owned you pactard, cuz this is not an alt-serious, it isn't...I quit going to ESB and came here u dummy-your fault on that one-owned ya
second-FLOYD ALREADY GAVE MANNY THE DATE-MAY 5TH-FLOYD ALREADY ADVISED TEAM PACQUIAO BEFORE HAND, THAT IF THEY DO NOT TAKE THE MAY 5 DATE, THEN THERE WILL NEVER BE A FIGHT-
Floyd in control of the negotiations, not Manny-If it were Manny then he wouldn't have to take the drug tests-But Manny agreed and this is proof enough that Pac is not the "A side"..
put it like this-If Pac does not accept the May 5 date, with full random blood tests (already agreed), drop the lawsuit (already agreed), and a 51-49 split (AS HE SAID HE WOULD), then there is no fight ever..period-end of story-..and Pac will be looked at as a guy who could never really deal with a good counterpuncher such as say..........Juan Manuel Marquez times 2 (plus a draw), or Floyd Mayweather.
Big DUMM, if Pac Accepted 70/30, FRAUD would find another reason to Save the 0.
and CONTINUE to PUNKOUT....to AVOID the Beating Pac would Administer!!!
Not really-Lets not forget it was Pac who made up the excuse not to fight on Nov 11th and that excuse was JMM 4 and now Cotto 2-
Pac should take the 51-49 split as he said he'd take a lesser share-his fault but whatever the case, he can still keep his word and give a 51-49 split-
Pac did this before too-He advised Ricky that he'd take a 50/50 split but they settled on a 52-48 in favor of Pac and it was Manny who verbally advised of a 50/50.
The funny thing is I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE-
I can continue to own you and your posts little pactard...Never posted here bro-Just the fact that you think that TELLS ME I ALREADY GOT YOU-
YOUR FAULT-Here, lemme call u out-Why don't you report me as a "ALT" to the moderators-
If it is an "alt" they'll suspend it-
AGAIN-IM NOT A PART TIME BOXING FAN-I KNOW MY ****-JUST CUZ I HAVE 12 POSTS MEANS NOTHING-I HAVE FOLLOWED BOXING SINCE THE LATE 80'S..
NEXT PLEASE CUZ THIS LIL PACTARD "PAC BOY" IS TO EASY TO OWN IN A DEBATE.
haha..Floyd has never been a war. He will be countered as well . And how many chances is he gonna have to counter a relentless throwing machine that throws punches in bunches? Good luck with that. He will get his little opportunities to counter, but hes no big KO puncher and Manny can take a good shot. So if Floyd cant KO many....he wont out punch or out land him. He will be to busy like every Manny opponent being on the defensive.
See-this guy has watched Floyd since Oscar........maybe
He hasn't seen the GOAT at 130 in Floyd-hasn't seen Floyd go toe to toe-This guy knows very little about the sport and his posts suggest it-
Floyd will be able to counter Manny easy-technically speaking-When Manny goes off balance and crosses his feet, Floyd will have an easy time placing precision punches on Pac's chin and torso.
Floyd won't need to have a lot of KO power-He just needs to catch Manny coming in wreckless...Pac has very little if any counter punching skills and his defense is average at best-He will be very hittable...Pac will find air when swinging too.
Pacquiao likes to "AMATUER HOOK"..Floyd can throw his 1-2 (jab-right hand) when Pac throws his "AMATUER HOOK"..Floyd will control the tempo as he has better footwork too..
Pactard, I practice the sport 4-5 days a week-I understand what Floyd is doing when he pivots off his back foot, or shrugs Ortiz's jab and TAKES THAT ANGLE OFF HIM (SEE ROUND 3 ORTIZ MAYWEATHER)...
Again, Pac is a hard puncher-He WILL have a PUNCHERS CHANCE-NOTHING MORE.
this idiot still insists that superstar pac bows down to his boring idol.
i wouldn't even give that overrated, boring boxer 40 split if i were pac.
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LMFA0-It's not about what YOU want-
The numbers show Floyd is the draw-Floyd averages 1,405,000 and Pac averages 1, 165,000 buys since each fought Oscar De La Hoya, who is the common factor-
Also, your rebuttal is pathetic and garbage-I referenced Mannie's highest split-you rebuttaled by insulting me-
I don't care about your insults pactard-im here to discuss boxing-discuss boxing or shut the fuk up and leave the forum ..understand?
You will never meet me so I don't care who you think my idol is (not Floyd btw)..
OWNED YA:drive:
The TS makes a point-If Manny is going to continue to lie and then run, then Cotto-Mayweather is the next best thing out there, business wise.
Mayweather by TKO.
Manny has fought 15times in 7 years. Floyd has fought only 7times in 7 years.
I find it funny flood aren't smart enough to think this will be or can be a huge factor.
Explain "Pacquiao fan" (a Pac fan who watches the entire sport but prefers Pacquiao) and what seems like to me, to be a "pactard" (a Pacquiao fan who only watches Pacquiao and what goes on around him in the sport)-
I really would like to hear you make an argument, that "because Pac fights more than Floyd, then he deserves this much more based on true and accurate sources."
I would also like to hear, in that same argument, that THE FACT that Floyd AVG more PPV buys since fighting Oscar (common factor, and turning point in both men's career's), means nothing (0) in negotiations....Please explain both? If you need the PPV #'s I have posted them many times.
Floyd avg. 1,405,000
Pac avg 1,135,000
MEN LIE, WOMEN LIE, NUMBERS DON'T LIE BUDDY.
Note-I am not arguing that they don't deserve 50/50 as I believe there is enough money on the table, for a 50/50. I'm arguing your stance, that you've posted in other posts, and seem to be referencing in this one, that Pac deserves a 60/40 split
Floyd lost first fight with Castillo, but got decision. Everybody in the building booed Floyd. Castillo put pressure on him all noght. That's why Floyd doesn't want to fight Pac because Pac is even more aggressive than Castillo and more accurate. Floyd can't fight going backwards, which he will do all night.
that fight was close-I had it 114-112 for Floyd-
Floyd also fought with a hurt shoulder as is shown in his official boxing report-
Floyd came back 8 months later and beat Castillo much more convincingly with a good shoulder.
Your fault-this is my only account-i only come here to watch the videos normally-i usually don't post on the forums but pactards are putting stuff out that is entirely not true.
Pactards always comment on things they know nothing about-
im so proud of you you have your alt up to 18 post.... good boy! :You_Rock_
The poster who just posted on "pactards being brainwashed" makes a good point-
Look at this fukin idiot...the guy focuses on the number of posts I have, rather than anything related to the thread topic and debate-
True fukin idiots pactards are-They should just stop watching boxing-they really don't know much about the sport.
Yea because PAC is the same as cotto and Floyd vs PAC will generate the same as PAC vs cotto right?? lol... Sometimes I wonder do u think before typing? Floyd And PAC is the top 2 right now, these 2 is suppose to be consider the very best. If they both fight eachother why would the other guy get less? There is no challenger here they're both the champion so again why would either guy agree to take less?
Because Floyd averages more buys man-
ITS BUSINESS-
Sure, Pac and Floyd are the top 2..that doesn't mean you go AWAY from business-
Oscar is the "common factor here"..if you look at their buys since Oscar, Floyd averages 1,405,000 buys...Pac averages 1,135,000 buys-THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF 280,000 BUYS.
I understand there is enough money for a 50/50 split-What I'm saying is, Pac should do as he said, and take the 51-49 split.