Last two fights barely the same explosiveness.
Againest fighters aged 38+ no less.
Mosley was suppose to be a ko. Marquez wasnt suppose to see 12. Though i give Marquez the benefit that hes something esle.
His legs appear tobe going, barely see the in out side to side. Hes walking a straight line. He hasnt been impressive. One bad night ? Sure, two? Uh oh.
Of course he's on the decline. He's been boxing for 16 years or something. That's the biggest reason Mayweather-Pacquiao will be pointless here soon, is because neither Floyd nor Pac are as good as they were at their best.
No he isn't;
He won the fight;
The PPV Result at 1.4 is higher than Mayweather Jr' last fight;
He was voted among the 100 powerful athletes/sportsmen in USA, ranking HIGHER than Mayweather Jr.
None of that has anything to do whatsoever with him declining as an athlete or not.
You fanboys are something else.
I cant wait for them to either fight or retire for no other reason than to see the disappearance of the mind bogglingly stupid fanboys.
No he isn't;
He won the fight;
The PPV Result at 1.4 is higher than Mayweather Jr' last fight;
He was voted among the 100 powerful athletes/sportsmen in USA, ranking HIGHER than Mayweather Jr.
common sense my ass. I watched the marquez fight a couple times and pacquiao still had speed and everything. His stamina has always been just okay. If you watch the end of the cotto fight you can clear see cotto evade manny's shot and manny looks at the ref in frustration because cotto wasn't brawling. Cotto just lacks the timing to counter pac.
He was turned. he didn't take punishment int he mosley fight so how could he be fading from damage. Your the ****ing idoit, if you actually watch the fights you'll see. he wasn't their mentally because he wasn't allowed to fight his fight. Also even if he was declining, floyd has already been there and done that, because he is clearly not the same fight he once was. stop:crying:
No its pretty obvious he is slowing down and has been for some time he is on the decline. When did I say he took punishment in the Mosley fight? Can you read? What I said is he has taken punishment throughout a long career.
The end of your post sums up your retarded infantile fanboy mindset. You say even if he was on the decline then quickly mention Maywether this thread is about Pac but having said that Maywether is also slowly declining but if you want to make a thread about that feel free.
One last thing if you are going to call me an idiot at least spell the word correctly you illiterate bastard. Thanks for the laugh though.
common sense my ass. I watched the marquez fight a couple times and pacquiao still had speed and everything. His stamina has always been just okay. If you watch the end of the cotto fight you can clear see cotto evade manny's shot and manny looks at the ref in frustration because cotto wasn't brawling. Cotto just lacks the timing to counter pac.
He was turned. he didn't take punishment int he mosley fight so how could he be fading from damage. Your the ****ing idoit, if you actually watch the fights you'll see. he wasn't their mentally because he wasn't allowed to fight his fight. Also even if he was declining, floyd has already been there and done that, because he is clearly not the same fight he once was. stop:crying:
No its pretty obvious he is slowing down and has been for some time he is on the decline. When did I say Mosley he took punishment in the Mosley fight? Can you read? What I said is he has taken punishment throughout a long career.
The end of your post sums up your retarded infantile fanboy mindset. You say even if he was on the decline then quickly mention Maywether this thread is about Pac but having said that Maywether is also slowly declining but if you want to make a thread about that feel free.
One last thing if you are going to call me an idiot at least spell the word correctly you illiterate bastard. Thanks for the laugh though.
Why does it always come down to this with you idiotic fan boys.
Forget excuses its called common sense we are talking about a guy who turned pro as a teenager has had a long career been involved in multiple tough fights taken a good amount of punishment and he heavily relies on speed and stamina which are amongst the first two things that decline in an aging boxer.
common sense my ass. I watched the marquez fight a couple times and pacquiao still had speed and everything. His stamina has always been just okay. If you watch the end of the cotto fight you can clear see cotto evade manny's shot and manny looks at the ref in frustration because cotto wasn't brawling. Cotto just lacks the timing to counter pac.
He was turned. he didn't take punishment int he mosley fight so how could he be fading from damage. Your the ****ing idoit, if you actually watch the fights you'll see. he wasn't their mentally because he wasn't allowed to fight his fight. Also even if he was declining, floyd has already been there and done that, because he is clearly not the same fight he once was. stop:crying:
there is nothing wrong with pacquiao. people are just dreading the fact that floyd might dominate him. They have to put the excuse out there.
Why does it always come down to this with you idiotic fan boys.
Forget excuses its called common sense we are talking about a guy who turned pro as a teenager has had a long career been involved in multiple tough fights taken a good amount of punishment and he heavily relies on speed and stamina which are amongst the first two things that decline in an aging boxer.
"In his last fight he was outboxed."
Last I checked, you have to take the title away from the Champion. You can't do that backing up for 12 rounds and being afraid to engage ala Mosley.
Last I checked this was boxing and yes Marquez in the eyes of me and many others including Pacs own stable mates clearly outboxed Pac.
Of course he's on the decline he's had a long career been in some wars and has a style very much reliant on speed and stamina I don't know how people can dismiss this the man is human he can't beat father time.
Really???
"In his last fight he was outboxed."
Last I checked, you have to take the title away from the Champion. You can't do that backing up for 12 rounds and being afraid to engage ala Mosley.
so what !!!!!!! mayfeather is older than morales !!!!! but morales cleary is more washed up then mayfeathers is , the same can be said about cotto !!!!!!! and coincedentally amnny is the one responsible for washing them up !!!!! ha ha ha ha ha !!!!! manny destroyed those guys and made them quit like punk chumps !!!! and if mayweather grows a backbone the same will happen too him !!!!! all the advatages he has on paper goes right out the window once he faces the speed of manny !!!! and the power of manila ice !!!!!!!!!!!!
For talking utter sh!t Fanboys are worse than schoolgirls , and your prime fanboy .
the great manny pacquiao is not even in his prime yet
he look "bad" against mosley and marquez to get the mayweather fight duh!
Hands down one of the most idiotic post of the week
Dis-agree. Mosley is a world class fighter and still at his age has experience and skills to survive.
Marquez was getting dissmisssed by 80% of the ppl here which showed no respect for his skills and accomplishments like it was going to be an easy win for Pac
Maybe it has to do more that ppl mis-judged the ability of his foes.
Styles makes fights and Pac is not going to look explosive against everybody
his peak probably was hatton.
going up against guy 20 lbs. more than him probably took his toll.
marg , cotto , clottey and them did do damage even in blowout losses.
Marg? Clottey?? What in the hell are you talking about?? So Clottey ruined Pacquiao with the two uppercuts he landed, which happened to be the only meaninful punches he threw in the boring 12 rounds??
And Margarito took Pacquiao's remaining prime with the body shot? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit!
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thanks for agreeing with me.
that's why pac needs to be trained and advised not to get carried away by the audience's booes. he needs to be patient and let his opponent come in and engage, instead of the other way around as always. let the mofos work for the money they're getting paid for.
he should learn from pbf. he doesn't give a hoot whether the fans are entertained or not.
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