Mexicans fans don't look to a mexican-american to take down nobody. I'm mexican and Pacquiao is a great fighter that has beat a lot of great mexican fighters, but the title of the thread is a lie
Can the mexicans or people with this channel confirm?
I don't think there is going to be boxing today in tv azteca, when the Margarito-Mosley fight ended they only announced the Darchinyan-Arce fight.
Gamboa is not on the same card.
Erislandy Lara, Breidis Prescott and Richard Gutierrez are on the same card. Gamboa will fight later, don't know when but I'm sure he will fight at least a month later.
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!
The funny thing is that even though Cruz is gay, he is actually a great fighter. lol. (not trying to discrimnate Cruz for his sexual preferences, but it's just weird).
No actually Mexicans are the most racially sensitive
Mexican warriors this
Blacks are runners
Brown Pride and so on
Those who says "brown pride" are chicanos, most of the ·"mexicans" in this forum are chicanos pretending they are mexicans. No real mexicans (born in Mexico/living in Mexico) talk about that "brown pride" i dont know what bullshit, that's chicanos (mexican-americans).
Yet you think Mexican's from Mexico being prejudice against Pocho's(Mexican americans) is really any better? You sir are a hypocrite!
Lol, when I was being against Mexican-Americans? Just tell me when! I just was saying the truth, i did not want to offend anybody.
Anyway, i'm not against "Chicanos" but i'm against these "chicanos" that makes other mexican-americans look bad with their "brown pride" "cholos" b.s.. Also, a lot of mexican-americans are really racist, especially against blacks, and I dont even know why. Here in Mexico we have not that problem. And like i said, i have no problem with "pochos", of course, if they are not racist or "cholos" or says stupid things like "brown pride, ese".
bernard is a great fighter but he is no legend....
bernard style is made to capatilize on 1 dimensional opponents
that come forward and lack speed and/or great reflexes
ie:felix trinidad, kelly pavlik,oscar (speed but no reflexes) ,tarver, glen johnson
those are the big names he beat of kourse....and they all have that or those factores in common....
the fighters he will always lose to are fighters
with the complete opposite, speed and great reflexes
ie: roy jones jr, joe calzaghe, jermain taylor, chad dawson (thats why he won't fight him) etc
legends, can adapt to all styles and dismantle them one day or another...
im not asking him to beat everybody, but at least beat 1 GUY that is a
stylistical nightmare for you.... if bernard could have shown me
he was capable of beating a speedy, reflex savy guy, i would give him
tremendous respect.....
and for people rating bernard over roy as far as all time status goes, it kan go both ways
but i think we kan all agree
bernard is a great fundamentally skilled smart fighter (relying totally on thinking because his athletiscm was easily matched or exceeded)
roy is or was the athletically skilled smart fighter (relied ENTIRELY on athetiscm even tho he had the BRAINS to box, he couldn't change
what he did all his life)
id give roy a slight edge in all time great status
for the simple fact that he was great at beating those
he was supposed to and those who gave him trouble
(SOUTHPAWS)
That's your opinion, I don't care about your opinion. Hopkins is not overrated and he is a legend, period.
Has anybody heard about this? My friend from Mexico says his dad came to visit and told him all about how Mexico is trying to find a fighter to beat Manny Pacquiao so thay are having a reality show, probably similar to The Contender, in hopes of finding anybody that can beat the Mexican Assassin.
I'm mexican and that's not true at all.
you still have to pay for hbo. hbo is not free
But we don't pay HBO to watch a Oscar De La Hoya fight, are you serious? if boxing wasn't on hbo i would still pay.
Just interested to know....
I guess both countries produce such excellent fighters and champions and since they have the same market in Vegas they usually end up on the opposing corners.That could be the reason but what fight started it all?
Was it because of Dela Hoya controversial loss to Felix Tito Trinidad???
If there were previous discussions here in NSB please post the link...
and if its ok who produced THE BEST ONE among all their champs??? for me its a toss between tito and JCC..
Oscar De La Hoya is not Mexican, nobody in Mexico cares if he loses or wins, when he wins nobody in Mexico celebrate (unless they are fans of him and not because he's "mexican" because he is not).
There was some fights between mexicans and puerto ricans before Sanchez-Gomez, but from what I understand, that fight is the one that started the rivalry.
no they got Sky which comes with the subscription or someshit, no charge
Yes exactly. I dont have sky, i just pay cable and HBO comes with it, if someone really thinks Mexicans have HBO to watch De la hoya fights is crazy....
Oscar De La Hoya - $610.6 million on 12.6 million buys (18 events)
most ppv sold in history
Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History
1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million
6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million
7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million
18. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (5/07) 2.15 million buys = $120.0 million
Totals: 12.6 million buys = $610.6 million
i guess mexican were buying the ppv too
You mean mexican-americans. In Mexico we don't really have the "ppv system" the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight was free on HBO in Mexico, same as the Pacquiao fight.
do you honestly believe mexicans dont root for oscar when he fights? come on man, that shit is old drama from the chavez fights...
Yes, i honestly believe that because i'm mexican and i live in Mexico. Only mexicans that are fans of Oscar root for him when he fights, but Mexico in general doesn't care about him.
Quintana vs Berto? QUINTANA !!!!!!
And.... Quitana moved to 154????? I don't like that but well.. he is very talented and i hope he can win a title at that weight even though it won't be easy at all, especially with Williams now in that weight.
REMATCH WITH CORRALES....YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
no sorry that was in bad taste.
it's his right to fight, but i wish he would retire.
Lol, the Corrales fights were really incredible.
Castillo said before the fight that if he wins then his manager Fernando Beltran will get him a fight against a good fighter at light welterweight (don't know how Castillo thinks he can make that weight).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ1D_07NPAE
hope yall enjoy it!
Yeah i remember when you was asking mexicans to help you with mexican music for a Chavez video. I guess you didn't like none of that lol.
That is a great video anyway. Thanks.
Mexico have an underated national side imo they pushed Argentina all the way in the last World Cup they were into extra time and only a wonder Goal by Maxi Lopez knocked them out
you are right.
i mean, boxing in Mexico is big but not as football thats what i wanted to say. i cant really say much because my english sucks.
this is boxing in Mexico:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQnVupBic5I&feature=related
Leonilo Miranda won 27 (KO 26) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 27
i cant wait to see Miranda in the big fights. Adios!!
Tan buenas las mamacitas en culiacan, eh pasado por alli yo :luvbed:
haha tienes razon, oye en tu firma te falto una pelea: urbano antillon nokeo a bobby pacquiao en el 1 round hace poco
haha de la hoya would get fucking murdered if he came to mexico.....mexicans HATE mexican americans.....especially oscar.....
Thats not true man, i live in Culiacan, Sinaloa and i dont hate mexican-americans, you cant talk for all the country, you can go to the boxing gyms and ask the kids who their idol is they gonna tell you Chavez and De La Hoya.
And the other thing about boxing is not that big in Mexico, IS TRUE, i dont understand why mexican people is so obsessed with soccer if the mexican team never win NOTHING, the mexican media is always 100% soccer, nothing about boxing.
Hyperion, no lo tomes a mal ni nada pero no generalices, yo soy mexicano y no odio a los mexico-americanos para nada.
ah and sorry for my bad english.
I don't even know if what you're saying is true, but Panama Al Brown and Emile Griffith are two of the GOAT and both have been fairly well known as gay. Catch up to the 21st century.
That's true. Anyway, what I said is true too.
Cruz is openly gay and thats great for him, in the chatroom that i was watching the fight, before the fight ended puerto ricans wouldn't stop talking about that. Anyway, i will not talk about anymore because it's not a big deal.
Cruz is a great boxer and i wish him the best.
La Loca??? :rofl::rofl::rofl::bigeyes:
Yeah lol and la loca is nothing compared with other nicknames i read about him tonight lol, even puertorriqueños was having fun with that.
Very impressive fight for me because even Erik Morales said Leonilo Miranda was a great fighter and another good things about him. I know Miranda had no names in his records, and he always fought in the state of Sonora, but had a record of 30-0-28, and he was #5 AMB, and #9 CMB, so i wasn't expecting him to lose not even by decision.
Cruz aint gay wears the proof?
JMM called on the phone, and he wants to know if its true.....
http://wbcjapan.hp.infoseek.co.jp/rafa12.jpg
LOL :rofl::rofl:
Seriously, if you want some proof just search it, you can go to Notifight (most famous boxing spanish site) and just read it. There's a loooooot of puertoricans there that knows that and don't make a big deal about it.
Anyway, i would never made up something like that, trust me, i'm not that kind of person, like i said you can go to Notifight (is in spanish) if you don't believe me.
This is the second time you say that. Whats your Problem? Who gives a **** is somebody is gay or not. You sound like you have a mancrush or something!!!!
It's the second time I said it because it's the second time I say something in a Cruz thread. And i dont give a **** if he's gay, it's just weird.
I watched the fight in a latin chat room called "Extended TV" and a lot of boricuas was calling him "la loca" LOL. No problem here.
I was not being discriminatory anyway, dont know why you get so mad, i just said a something that is True.